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Title: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: tikay on April 10, 2018, 03:22:31 PM

After last week's thriller, they go again tonight in the 2nd leg.

Despite the improvement in defence thanks to van Dijk, Liverpool can't really go there to defend, whilst full on gung-ho might not be wise either.

Good attacking game from both sides with plenty of goals?

If it's half as good as last week it'll be a good watch.

Anyone care to forecast the correct score?


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: booder on April 10, 2018, 03:29:07 PM
Don't think City will be as wasteful in front of goal this time, hoping Liverpool can nick one,but think this will go right to the wire.



Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: teddybloat on April 10, 2018, 03:46:13 PM
I'm hoping for a real slug fest and that city score first.

Should be one of the great second leg ties, with an atmosphere to match.

Great game for us nuetrals, fans of both teams are going to be put through hell though

Two legged ties late stage CL ties are the test cricket of football, innit. Full of swings, nuance and drawn out tension.

3-0 up but as you say not easy to say what their best strategy is. And most reds I know are more nervous than I've ever seen them. City are that good.

Great match up, great set up, cannot wait



Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: tikay on April 10, 2018, 03:51:40 PM

Not looked at the exchanges, but the approx prices with the firms are:

Man City 4/9

Draw 4/1

Liverpool 11/2


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: Archer on April 10, 2018, 03:53:53 PM
I read somewhere earlier in the week that home teams facing a 3-0 deficit in a 2L  CL knock-out game have only gone through something like 5.33% of the time. I think the sample size was a 100+ games as well.

If City were somehow to pull it off and given the significance of the match it will probably be the most exciting game (after Aguero 93.20) ever seen at the Etihad. That's too much to hope for.

6-2 City :)





 


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: arbboy on April 10, 2018, 03:56:08 PM
I read somewhere earlier in the week that home teams facing a 3-0 deficit in a 2L  CL knock-out game have only gone through something like 5.33% of the time. I think the sample size was a 100+ games as well.

If City were somehow to pull it off and given the significance of the match it will probably be the most exciting game (after Aguero 93.20) ever seen at the Etihad. That's too much to hope for.

6-2 City :)


The only sample size that matters is when the big underdog (before the two legs started) had a 3-0 lead.  Then i would suggest that the % would be higher than 5%.  When Barca/Madrid go into a second leg 3-0 up they are not getting beat every often.


 

4-1 City.  Liverpool through on away goals.


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: Archer on April 10, 2018, 04:02:57 PM
I'm hoping for a real slug fest and that city score first.

Should be one of the great second leg ties, with an atmosphere to match.

Great game for us nuetrals, fans of both teams are going to be put through hell though

Two legged ties late stage CL ties are the test cricket of football, innit. Full of swings, nuance and drawn out tension.

3-0 up but as you say not easy to say what their best strategy is. And most reds I know are more nervous than I've ever seen them. City are that good.

Great match up, great set up, cannot wait


So true. But no swing back in the 2nd half at Anfield. A 3-1 scoreline would make such a difference and I for one would then  be approaching this with more optimism.


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on April 10, 2018, 06:20:04 PM
City goal in the first 10 minutes would be ideal. If they can get 2 before 20 minutes I think they'll just steamroll Liverpool. I think KDB and especially Aguero need to perform very well if City are going to progress. I do wonder about Kompany though. It was clear from the first leg he is the worst player on the ball for City and they struggled to play out through him. I think not dropping him maybe part of City's downfall. That transition needs to be quick and accurate and I don't think you get that from Kompany.


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: hhyftrftdr on April 10, 2018, 06:47:39 PM
City goal in the first 10 minutes would be ideal. If they can get 2 before 20 minutes I think they'll just steamroll Liverpool. I think KDB and especially Aguero need to perform very well if City are going to progress. I do wonder about Kompany though. It was clear from the first leg he is the worst player on the ball for City and they struggled to play out through him. I think not dropping him maybe part of City's downfall. That transition needs to be quick and accurate and I don't think you get that from Kompany.

No Kompany or Aguero.

Got about 17 midfielders on the pitch though :)


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: Woodsey on April 10, 2018, 06:56:15 PM
Stuck in a shithole in Stockport tonight rather than my usual plush hotel in central Manchester because of this stupid game! Not a room to be had anywhere at a sensible price  ;grr;


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: celtic on April 10, 2018, 07:03:36 PM
dont understand no aguero. If he is fit enough for the bench then he should be starting surely?


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: Marky147 on April 10, 2018, 07:07:24 PM
Stuck in a shithole in Stockport tonight rather than my usual plush hotel in central Manchester because of this stupid game! Not a room to be had anywhere at a sensible price  ;grr;

One less bottle of red, and get your wallet out ;)


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: teddybloat on April 10, 2018, 07:14:37 PM
City call Liverpool's coach welcoming party,  and raise all-in.


https://mobile.twitter.com/richardbuxton_/status/983759965625208834


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: teddybloat on April 10, 2018, 07:18:20 PM
City goal in the first 10 minutes would be ideal. If they can get 2 before 20 minutes I think they'll just steamroll Liverpool. I think KDB and especially Aguero need to perform very well if City are going to progress. I do wonder about Kompany though. It was clear from the first leg he is the worst player on the ball for City and they struggled to play out through him. I think not dropping him maybe part of City's downfall. That transition needs to be quick and accurate and I don't think you get that from Kompany.

No Kompany or Aguero.

Got about 17 midfielders on the pitch though :)

Peps not fucking about is he.

3 v 3 against The Holy Trinity

Good lad


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: Woodsey on April 10, 2018, 07:37:20 PM
Stuck in a shithole in Stockport tonight rather than my usual plush hotel in central Manchester because of this stupid game! Not a room to be had anywhere at a sensible price  ;grr;

One less bottle of red, and get your wallet out ;)

Fook that, I don’t pay for shit when I’m on the road  :cheers:


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: tikay on April 10, 2018, 07:48:30 PM

oioi, game on.


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: teddybloat on April 10, 2018, 07:49:08 PM
Boom!

Bedlam here we come


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: Karabiner on April 10, 2018, 07:52:17 PM
Virging on the ridiculous..


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: Tal on April 10, 2018, 08:30:44 PM
Shouldn't have been offside. Came off Milner, rather than a City player.

Unless I'm misunderstanding the offside rule...


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: Ledders on April 10, 2018, 08:32:02 PM
And it wasn't offside anyway?!

Just realised he was in front of the goalkeeper, always forget about him counting as one


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: Karabiner on April 10, 2018, 08:33:50 PM
Robbed - good goal disallowed.


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: nirvana on April 10, 2018, 08:35:35 PM
Some of the City passing was just breathtaking, 2 pens on Sterling too..  refs gotta pull his finger out and start giving pens


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: teddybloat on April 10, 2018, 08:35:46 PM
No added time either.

They should add 30 secs for a goal irrc.

Think it was given as a foul on the keeper, which might be as ridiculous.

Bubbling up nicely


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: nirvana on April 10, 2018, 08:36:24 PM
And it wasn't offside anyway?!

Just realised he was in front of the goalkeeper, always forget about him counting as one

Seems a harsh rule when the keeper comes out like Superman


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: tikay on April 10, 2018, 08:40:04 PM

Charged atmo, exciteable ref, what price 1 - or more - red cards?


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on April 10, 2018, 08:43:25 PM
Firmino is nailed on to get sent off.


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: teddybloat on April 10, 2018, 08:59:03 PM
City flagging ala Liverpool

Salah is ice isn't he


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: Karabiner on April 10, 2018, 09:20:31 PM
Oh dear Kyle Walker used to play for the spuds didn't he..


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: teddybloat on April 10, 2018, 09:25:21 PM
The man city Liverpool game is on bt3 now btw


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: tikay on April 10, 2018, 09:28:28 PM

Barca on way out, too?


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: Karabiner on April 10, 2018, 09:28:42 PM
The sight of manciteh fans leaving early after everything their team has delivered this season is pretty galling.


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: DropTheHammer on April 10, 2018, 09:34:28 PM
Well I don't think the players will be doing a lap of Honour to say hello to the crowd. 


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: hhyftrftdr on April 10, 2018, 09:40:51 PM
The sight of manciteh fans leaving early after everything their team has delivered this season is pretty galling.

Why would it be galling? Happens every home game. Least they are there to leave early, eh?

Fully deserved for Liverpool over 2 legs. Not getting an away goal really set us back. If we coulda gone in at half time 2-0 up then we might have made it interesting but Liverpool always had a goal in them.

Can stop searching for obscure routes to Kiev now :)


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: rinswun on April 10, 2018, 09:41:12 PM
Bad week for the best team in premier league history.


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: arbboy on April 10, 2018, 09:49:17 PM
Bad week for the best team in premier league history.

What's happened to Arsenal's invincibles this week then?


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: teddybloat on April 10, 2018, 09:50:55 PM
Bit of a let down after Salah scored, made like a city fan and left early switching to the Roma game. Two ex city lumps Kolarov and dzecko helping roma hand it to the Catalans with grit and togetherness.

Weird contrast to what was happening on the other side.


City seem to have no legs. Massive difference half time made.



Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: rinswun on April 11, 2018, 01:08:41 AM
Bad week for the best team in premier league history.

What's happened to Arsenal's invincibles this week then?

Fair point, I guess Utd 1998/99 had it.


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: teddybloat on April 11, 2018, 08:34:35 AM
Some thoughts

If late stage CL ties are the test cricket of football, pep approached it like 20 over big bash cricket. Nearly paid off, but the better game management of klopp held. The Italians with citys prosaic rejects showed an alternative approach by slowly ratcheting up the pressure on barca.

City had every major tight decision go against them, as well as a couple of howlers. The sane offside decision was awful and denied us all a hell of a second half.

Salah is a boss. 39 goals this season. And he's only 25. If he scores 39 goals every season for the next 13 years - until he's 38 - he'll have as many goals as CR7 does now. Still a long way to go before the comparisons with the truly elite can be made (another CR7 stat for you, James milner has been playing pro first team football since he was 16. He's on course to be join an exclusive list of players who have made 500 prem appearances. After last night he can now say he has made as many club appearances as Ronnie has scored career goals)

Juve digging out Tottenham, real digging out psg, Roma rolling back the years and Liverpool's fire and brimstone anfield  bossing city's emptying soccerbowl and plastic flags. The euro old guard showing pedigree matters this year. Love it.


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: tikay on April 11, 2018, 10:51:32 AM
Some thoughts

If late stage CL ties are the test cricket of football, pep approached it like 20 over big bash cricket. Nearly paid off, but the better game management of klopp held. The Italians with citys prosaic rejects showed an alternative approach by slowly ratcheting up the pressure on barca.

City had every major tight decision go against them, as well as a couple of howlers. The sane offside decision was awful and denied us all a hell of a second half.

Salah is a boss. 39 goals this season. And he's only 25. If he scores 39 goals every season for the next 13 years - until he's 38 - he'll have as many goals as CR7 does now. Still a long way to go before the comparisons with the truly elite can be made (another CR7 stat for you, James milner has been playing pro first team football since he was 16. He's on course to be join an exclusive list of players who have made 500 prem appearances. After last night he can now say he has made as many club appearances as Ronnie has scored career goals)

Juve digging out Tottenham, real digging out psg, Roma rolling back the years and Liverpool's fire and brimstone anfield  bossing city's emptying soccerbowl and plastic flags. The euro old guard showing pedigree matters this year. Love it.

Agree with the bolded part, City can feel a tad hard done by, so many of the important decisions went against them in both legs, & they seemed to miss all those half chances they'd normally put away. The overall result was probably right, but it was closer than the scores suggest.

As a neutral, I did not really care who won, but I'm thrilled for Liverpool, & can't wait for the semi-finals. Liverpool with a real shot at the CL? Incred.


Title: Re: Man City V Liverpool, round 2, ding ding
Post by: tikay on April 11, 2018, 10:58:00 AM

The other great mystery was that Referee last night.

It's so easy for us in our comfy armchairs to criticise these guys, but if last night's Referee was amongst Europe's elite, God help football.

It was clear within minutes he had Tourette's of the arms, he was like a traffic policeman, arms a-waving & pointing in all directions.

Referees need to be calm & assured, not like a whirligig.

Jack Taylor must be turning in his grave this morning, and Pierluigi Collina's eyes must have been on sticks.



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