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Title: FT 3 handed omaha hi lo bounty
Post by: Ironside on July 03, 2018, 02:26:50 AM
all 3 players had 100-150 bounty on heads
as hand history shows button opens i 3bet from small blind big blind shoves and button calls i can fold and still have nearly 50% of the chips or call and try and get luck with what i will hopefully have 33% equity

money jumps are 210$ 276$ and 364$ +own bounty so winning this thing is much more important than laddering up as you get 2nd place bounty + your own


PokerStars Hand #188297155809: Tournament #2344487789, $12.30+$12.25+$2.45 USD Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit - Level XXIV (1400/2800) - 2018/07/03 2:17:09 WET [2018/07/02 21:17:09 ET]
Table '2344487789 4' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: Ironside (207688 in chips, $134.66 bounty)
Seat 3: BadBeatBoy23 (128522 in chips, $143.84 bounty)
Seat 8: markskie1337 (68790 in chips, $118.59 bounty)
Ironside: posts the ante 350
BadBeatBoy23: posts the ante 350
markskie1337: posts the ante 350
Ironside: posts small blind 1400
BadBeatBoy23: posts big blind 2800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [7c Ad 5c 2h]
markskie1337: raises 3136 to 5936
Ironside: raises 5264 to 11200
BadBeatBoy23: raises 116972 to 128172 and is all-in
markskie1337: calls 62504 and is all-in
Ironside


Title: Re: FT 3 handed omaha hi lo bounty
Post by: Doobs on July 03, 2018, 10:00:31 AM
all 3 players had 100-150 bounty on heads
as hand history shows button opens i 3bet from small blind big blind shoves and button calls i can fold and still have nearly 50% of the chips or call and try and get luck with what i will hopefully have 33% equity

money jumps are 210$ 276$ and 364$ +own bounty so winning this thing is much more important than laddering up as you get 2nd place bounty + your own


PokerStars Hand #188297155809: Tournament #2344487789, $12.30+$12.25+$2.45 USD Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit - Level XXIV (1400/2800) - 2018/07/03 2:17:09 WET [2018/07/02 21:17:09 ET]
Table '2344487789 4' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: Ironside (207688 in chips, $134.66 bounty)
Seat 3: BadBeatBoy23 (128522 in chips, $143.84 bounty)
Seat 8: markskie1337 (68790 in chips, $118.59 bounty)
Ironside: posts the ante 350
BadBeatBoy23: posts the ante 350
markskie1337: posts the ante 350
Ironside: posts small blind 1400
BadBeatBoy23: posts big blind 2800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [7c Ad 5c 2h]
markskie1337: raises 3136 to 5936
Ironside: raises 5264 to 11200
BadBeatBoy23: raises 116972 to 128172 and is all-in
markskie1337: calls 62504 and is all-in
Ironside

Just go fo it.  You are probably less than 33% as your clubs are poor and so is your top kicker, hands with four low cards are frequently overated in this game.  Despite this, the bounties will make everything fine and your 3 bet has made this more so.     

If the 3 bet was to make them think you were nutted, it didn't work.  If the 3 bet was to make this happen, it worked really well.  What was the thinking behind your 3 bet?



Title: Re: FT 3 handed omaha hi lo bounty
Post by: tikay on July 03, 2018, 12:33:47 PM

hands with four low cards are frequently overated in this game


^^^^ THIS


Title: Re: FT 3 handed omaha hi lo bounty
Post by: Ironside on July 03, 2018, 04:36:41 PM
all 3 players had 100-150 bounty on heads
as hand history shows button opens i 3bet from small blind big blind shoves and button calls i can fold and still have nearly 50% of the chips or call and try and get luck with what i will hopefully have 33% equity

money jumps are 210$ 276$ and 364$ +own bounty so winning this thing is much more important than laddering up as you get 2nd place bounty + your own


PokerStars Hand #188297155809: Tournament #2344487789, $12.30+$12.25+$2.45 USD Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit - Level XXIV (1400/2800) - 2018/07/03 2:17:09 WET [2018/07/02 21:17:09 ET]
Table '2344487789 4' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: Ironside (207688 in chips, $134.66 bounty)
Seat 3: BadBeatBoy23 (128522 in chips, $143.84 bounty)
Seat 8: markskie1337 (68790 in chips, $118.59 bounty)
Ironside: posts the ante 350
BadBeatBoy23: posts the ante 350
markskie1337: posts the ante 350
Ironside: posts small blind 1400
BadBeatBoy23: posts big blind 2800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [7c Ad 5c 2h]
markskie1337: raises 3136 to 5936
Ironside: raises 5264 to 11200
BadBeatBoy23: raises 116972 to 128172 and is all-in
markskie1337: calls 62504 and is all-in
Ironside

Just go fo it.  You are probably less than 33% as your clubs are poor and so is your top kicker, hands with four low cards are frequently overated in this game.  Despite this, the bounties will make everything fine and your 3 bet has made this more so.     

If the 3 bet was to make them think you were nutted, it didn't work.  If the 3 bet was to make this happen, it worked really well.  What was the thinking behind your 3 bet?



the 3bet was to take the pot there and then, i was bullying quite well even when i was shorter of the 3 as they seemed to be laddering up
button was playing alot of middling cards for raises BB was a little nittier
the 4bet shove was obvious AAxx and the call i thought was an A2 type hand
without the bounties i would of folded

turns out that the hands i was against meant i was 35.3%
bb had a stronger looking but 34.2% As Qc  2d  Ah
and button 30.5% Jd 9d  8d  Qh

i made the call BB scooped but i wasn't sure of the hand afterwards due to bounty rather than a straight forward comp


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pokenum  -mc 500000  -o8 7c ad 5c 2h  - as 2d qc ah  - 8d 9d jd qh
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled boards
cards           scoop   HIwin   HIlos  HItie   LOwin  LOlos   LOtie     EV
7c 5c  Ad  2h   69058  125038  360402  14560  105023      0  175111  0.353
As Qc  2d  Ah   83981  161798  323165  15037       0  28907  175111  0.342
Jd 9d  8d  Qh  106302  197875  301144    981       0      0       0  0.305