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Title: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: lutonrover on November 10, 2018, 04:06:26 PM
Hi ,was  thinking  of playin  the Revolution   150k chips   really !!!!

what are the starting blinds

thanks


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: jakally on November 10, 2018, 04:50:15 PM
Blinds start at 500/1000 with a 1000 BA.
Ran this event last week for the first time & had lots of good comments from players about the structure, & the ppLIVE Dollars promotion.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Jamier-Host on November 13, 2018, 12:59:28 PM
But might as well be 50/100/100 with 15k starting stack.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: EvilPie on November 13, 2018, 01:01:47 PM
But might as well be 50/100/100 with 15k starting stack.

This. It's absolutely bloody ridiculous.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Marky147 on November 13, 2018, 01:04:44 PM
But might as well be 50/100/100 with 15k starting stack.

This. It's absolutely bloody ridiculous.


People like to say they have a million chips, and this gives lots of them a chance ;D


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: UgotNuts on November 13, 2018, 01:23:45 PM
More negative 💩.

It’s all to do with the number of big blinds you start with. The rest doesn’t really matter.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Longines on November 13, 2018, 01:24:00 PM
But might as well be 50/100/100 with 15k starting stack.

Would make providing change for the next four levels fun given they would be 60/120, 70/140, 80/160, 90/180...


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: jakally on November 13, 2018, 03:58:14 PM
Come & try it this weekend. As good a structure as you will get for a 2 day comp. The main day 1 is 2pm Saturday & has a 30 minute clock. Would love some feedback from players that haven't been for a while - structure, or anything else.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Marky147 on November 13, 2018, 04:29:43 PM
If it wasn't so far, I'd be up there most weekends to donate.

Played at the Millions last month, and really enjoyed it, even though it was a little too busy for my unstable self :)


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: EvilPie on November 13, 2018, 04:31:30 PM
More negative 💩.

It’s all to do with the number of big blinds you start with. The rest doesn’t really matter.

The emboldened bit above is why it's bloody ridiculous because as you correctly say it really doesn't matter.

I just don't get why they needed to multiply everything by ten in the first place? Do you really need a billion chips in play at the start of a tournament?

This isn't an exaggeration by the way, there was a tournament at DTD recently with 1000000000+ chips in play.

About half of these belonged to BRS players ;)

I added a wink... It was a joke... Don't bite my head off.....



Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: EvilPie on November 13, 2018, 04:35:38 PM
If it wasn't so far, I'd be up there most weekends to donate.

Played at the Millions last month, and really enjoyed it, even though it was a little too busy for my unstable self :)

If I'd not fallen out of love with poker for various reasons I'd be the same, I used to be there at least 3 times per week and absolutely loved it.

I had some fantastic times at DTD and have got to know some great people as a direct result of going there so I'll always be grateful to the place for that.

I still think starting with 150k chips is stupid though.... Sorry Neil ;)



Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Marky147 on November 13, 2018, 04:45:50 PM
If it wasn't so far, I'd be up there most weekends to donate.

Played at the Millions last month, and really enjoyed it, even though it was a little too busy for my unstable self :)

If I'd not fallen out of love with poker for various reasons I'd be the same, I used to be there at least 3 times per week and absolutely loved it.

I had some fantastic times at DTD and have got to know some great people as a direct result of going there so I'll always be grateful to the place for that.

I still think starting with 150k chips is stupid though.... Sorry Neil ;)

I have gone much the same, but still like the occasionally splash around.

I used to be super jealous reading about all the exploits on here, during the live updates.

I'm going to try and get a few days off work to hit that WSOP(C) festival in January.

It is if they started the blinds at 25/50, like some comps with 50k starting chips did.

I quite like the Party structures, but would prefer button, over BB ante.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: TightEnd on November 13, 2018, 04:47:37 PM
More negative 💩.

It’s all to do with the number of big blinds you start with. The rest doesn’t really matter.

The emboldened bit above is why it's bloody ridiculous because as you correctly say it really doesn't matter.

I just don't get why they needed to multiply everything by ten in the first place? Do you really need a billion chips in play at the start of a tournament?

This isn't an exaggeration by the way, there was a tournament at DTD recently with 1000000000+ chips in play.

About half of these belonged to BRS players ;)

I added a wink... It was a joke... Don't bite my head off.....



the structures follow the partypoker live structures

fewer big blinds in the starting stack (150x or so) but extra levels in the mid game and towards the final table such that there is more play when you need it

Patrick developed the structure with PPL and it plays exceptionally well. shove fests late on are  (from what i can see, don't play many myself) pretty much a thing of the past but you can't sit there for hours waiting for hand early somuch


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: EvilPie on November 13, 2018, 04:48:27 PM
Come & try it this weekend. As good a structure as you will get for a 2 day comp. The main day 1 is 2pm Saturday & has a 30 minute clock. Would love some feedback from players that haven't been for a while - structure, or anything else.

Other life has just taken over for me now and I really can't see me committing to a 2 dayer any time soon.

It doesn't seem long ago that I would prioritise the DTD £300 deepstack above everything else, that's just how it was once a month.

I think I got spoilt by all the tournaments on my doorstep and the more of them there were the less important it became to get to one of the big (for me) ones as you knew there would be another one soon.

Genuinely miss those days but alas it's in the past and it's highly unlikely to return.



Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: TightEnd on November 13, 2018, 04:49:04 PM
If it wasn't so far, I'd be up there most weekends to donate.

Played at the Millions last month, and really enjoyed it, even though it was a little too busy for my unstable self :)

If I'd not fallen out of love with poker for various reasons I'd be the same, I used to be there at least 3 times per week and absolutely loved it.

I had some fantastic times at DTD and have got to know some great people as a direct result of going there so I'll always be grateful to the place for that.

I still think starting with 150k chips is stupid though.... Sorry Neil ;)

I have gone much the same, but still like the occasionally splash around.

I used to be super jealous reading about all the exploits on here, during the live updates.

I'm going to try and get a few days off work to hit that WSOP(C) festival in January.

It is if they started the blinds at 25/50, like some comps with 50k starting chips did.

I quite like the Party structures, but would prefer button, over BB ante.

we were button ante but Duthie and Rob consulted players (polls on social media and discussions in groups) and the vote was about 65% big blind over button ante, hence the change


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: EvilPie on November 13, 2018, 04:54:22 PM
More negative 💩.

It’s all to do with the number of big blinds you start with. The rest doesn’t really matter.

The emboldened bit above is why it's bloody ridiculous because as you correctly say it really doesn't matter.

I just don't get why they needed to multiply everything by ten in the first place? Do you really need a billion chips in play at the start of a tournament?

This isn't an exaggeration by the way, there was a tournament at DTD recently with 1000000000+ chips in play.

About half of these belonged to BRS players ;)

I added a wink... It was a joke... Don't bite my head off.....



the structures follow the partypoker live structures

fewer big blinds in the starting stack (150x or so) but extra levels in the mid game and towards the final table such that there is more play when you need it

Patrick developed the structure with PPL and it plays exceptionally well. shove fests late on are  (from what i can see, don't play many myself) pretty much a thing of the past but you can't sit there for hours waiting for hand early somuch

Yeah I've heard they're really good now and much flatter. Gone are the old 'hyper giant ultra stack' comps where you started with 2000bbs but if you didn't play a hand for 3 levels you were down to 100 :D



Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Marky147 on November 13, 2018, 05:01:10 PM
If it wasn't so far, I'd be up there most weekends to donate.

Played at the Millions last month, and really enjoyed it, even though it was a little too busy for my unstable self :)

If I'd not fallen out of love with poker for various reasons I'd be the same, I used to be there at least 3 times per week and absolutely loved it.

I had some fantastic times at DTD and have got to know some great people as a direct result of going there so I'll always be grateful to the place for that.

I still think starting with 150k chips is stupid though.... Sorry Neil ;)

I have gone much the same, but still like the occasionally splash around.

I used to be super jealous reading about all the exploits on here, during the live updates.

I'm going to try and get a few days off work to hit that WSOP(C) festival in January.

It is if they started the blinds at 25/50, like some comps with 50k starting chips did.

I quite like the Party structures, but would prefer button, over BB ante.

we were button ante but Duthie and Rob consulted players (polls on social media and discussions in groups) and the vote was about 65% big blind over button ante, hence the change

I think it encourages more action, so can see why it's preferred by most players.

I don't mind either, for what it's worth :)


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Doobs on November 13, 2018, 11:32:14 PM
If it wasn't so far, I'd be up there most weekends to donate.

Played at the Millions last month, and really enjoyed it, even though it was a little too busy for my unstable self :)

If I'd not fallen out of love with poker for various reasons I'd be the same, I used to be there at least 3 times per week and absolutely loved it.

I had some fantastic times at DTD and have got to know some great people as a direct result of going there so I'll always be grateful to the place for that.

I still think starting with 150k chips is stupid though.... Sorry Neil ;)

I have gone much the same, but still like the occasionally splash around.

I used to be super jealous reading about all the exploits on here, during the live updates.

I'm going to try and get a few days off work to hit that WSOP(C) festival in January.

It is if they started the blinds at 25/50, like some comps with 50k starting chips did.

I quite like the Party structures, but would prefer button, over BB ante.

Ooh, you can't just slip that in so casually.  A circuit ring is pretty rare in Europe?


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Marky147 on November 13, 2018, 11:57:48 PM
If it wasn't so far, I'd be up there most weekends to donate.

Played at the Millions last month, and really enjoyed it, even though it was a little too busy for my unstable self :)

If I'd not fallen out of love with poker for various reasons I'd be the same, I used to be there at least 3 times per week and absolutely loved it.

I had some fantastic times at DTD and have got to know some great people as a direct result of going there so I'll always be grateful to the place for that.

I still think starting with 150k chips is stupid though.... Sorry Neil ;)

I have gone much the same, but still like the occasionally splash around.

I used to be super jealous reading about all the exploits on here, during the live updates.

I'm going to try and get a few days off work to hit that WSOP(C) festival in January.

It is if they started the blinds at 25/50, like some comps with 50k starting chips did.

I quite like the Party structures, but would prefer button, over BB ante.

Ooh, you can't just slip that in so casually.  A circuit ring is pretty rare in Europe?

I thought everyone would know it's on, as it's being held at DTD.

Few good comps over the few weeks it's on, too - https://partypokerlive.com/en/event/wsop-c-uk-2019/schedule

Only rings I'll be getting, are donuts from the local Starbies ;D


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: jakally on November 14, 2018, 07:47:06 AM
If it wasn't so far, I'd be up there most weekends to donate.

Played at the Millions last month, and really enjoyed it, even though it was a little too busy for my unstable self :)

If I'd not fallen out of love with poker for various reasons I'd be the same, I used to be there at least 3 times per week and absolutely loved it.

I had some fantastic times at DTD and have got to know some great people as a direct result of going there so I'll always be grateful to the place for that.

I still think starting with 150k chips is stupid though.... Sorry Neil ;)

I have gone much the same, but still like the occasionally splash around.

I used to be super jealous reading about all the exploits on here, during the live updates.

I'm going to try and get a few days off work to hit that WSOP(C) festival in January.

It is if they started the blinds at 25/50, like some comps with 50k starting chips did.

I quite like the Party structures, but would prefer button, over BB ante.

Ooh, you can't just slip that in so casually.  A circuit ring is pretty rare in Europe?

I thought everyone would know it's on, as it's being held at DTD.

Few good comps over the few weeks it's on, too - https://partypokerlive.com/en/event/wsop-c-uk-2019/schedule

Only rings I'll be getting, are donuts from the local Starbies ;D

WSOP-C will happen next year, but the date will probably (pretty certainly) change.
This was pulled from all sites a couple of weeks ago - is it still visible somewhere or do you still have the link in your browser?

Apologies if we haven't been clear on this - should have a better picture over the next week or so.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: StuartHopkin on November 14, 2018, 08:56:59 AM
If it wasn't so far, I'd be up there most weekends to donate.

Played at the Millions last month, and really enjoyed it, even though it was a little too busy for my unstable self :)

If I'd not fallen out of love with poker for various reasons I'd be the same, I used to be there at least 3 times per week and absolutely loved it.

I had some fantastic times at DTD and have got to know some great people as a direct result of going there so I'll always be grateful to the place for that.

I still think starting with 150k chips is stupid though.... Sorry Neil ;)

I have gone much the same, but still like the occasionally splash around.

I used to be super jealous reading about all the exploits on here, during the live updates.

I'm going to try and get a few days off work to hit that WSOP(C) festival in January.

It is if they started the blinds at 25/50, like some comps with 50k starting chips did.

I quite like the Party structures, but would prefer button, over BB ante.

Ooh, you can't just slip that in so casually.  A circuit ring is pretty rare in Europe?

I thought everyone would know it's on, as it's being held at DTD.

Few good comps over the few weeks it's on, too - https://partypokerlive.com/en/event/wsop-c-uk-2019/schedule

Only rings I'll be getting, are donuts from the local Starbies ;D

WSOP-C will happen next year, but the date will probably (pretty certainly) change.
This was pulled from all sites a couple of weeks ago - is it still visible somewhere or do you still have the link in your browser?

Apologies if we haven't been clear on this - should have a better picture over the next week or so.

Arghhh

Don't move the dates!

I was planning on making an appearance!




Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Doobs on November 14, 2018, 09:01:48 AM
If it wasn't so far, I'd be up there most weekends to donate.

Played at the Millions last month, and really enjoyed it, even though it was a little too busy for my unstable self :)

If I'd not fallen out of love with poker for various reasons I'd be the same, I used to be there at least 3 times per week and absolutely loved it.

I had some fantastic times at DTD and have got to know some great people as a direct result of going there so I'll always be grateful to the place for that.

I still think starting with 150k chips is stupid though.... Sorry Neil ;)

I have gone much the same, but still like the occasionally splash around.

I used to be super jealous reading about all the exploits on here, during the live updates.

I'm going to try and get a few days off work to hit that WSOP(C) festival in January.

It is if they started the blinds at 25/50, like some comps with 50k starting chips did.

I quite like the Party structures, but would prefer button, over BB ante.

Ooh, you can't just slip that in so casually.  A circuit ring is pretty rare in Europe?

I thought everyone would know it's on, as it's being held at DTD.

Few good comps over the few weeks it's on, too - https://partypokerlive.com/en/event/wsop-c-uk-2019/schedule

Only rings I'll be getting, are donuts from the local Starbies ;D

WSOP-C will happen next year, but the date will probably (pretty certainly) change.
This was pulled from all sites a couple of weeks ago - is it still visible somewhere or do you still have the link in your browser?

Apologies if we haven't been clear on this - should have a better picture over the next week or so.

Arghhh

Don't move the dates!

I was planning on making an appearance!




This.   It was perfectly timed for me. 


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: EvilPie on November 14, 2018, 12:05:51 PM
If it wasn't so far, I'd be up there most weekends to donate.

Played at the Millions last month, and really enjoyed it, even though it was a little too busy for my unstable self :)

If I'd not fallen out of love with poker for various reasons I'd be the same, I used to be there at least 3 times per week and absolutely loved it.

I had some fantastic times at DTD and have got to know some great people as a direct result of going there so I'll always be grateful to the place for that.

I still think starting with 150k chips is stupid though.... Sorry Neil ;)

I have gone much the same, but still like the occasionally splash around.

I used to be super jealous reading about all the exploits on here, during the live updates.

I'm going to try and get a few days off work to hit that WSOP(C) festival in January.

It is if they started the blinds at 25/50, like some comps with 50k starting chips did.

I quite like the Party structures, but would prefer button, over BB ante.

Ooh, you can't just slip that in so casually.  A circuit ring is pretty rare in Europe?

I thought everyone would know it's on, as it's being held at DTD.

Few good comps over the few weeks it's on, too - https://partypokerlive.com/en/event/wsop-c-uk-2019/schedule

Only rings I'll be getting, are donuts from the local Starbies ;D

WSOP-C will happen next year, but the date will probably (pretty certainly) change.
This was pulled from all sites a couple of weeks ago - is it still visible somewhere or do you still have the link in your browser?

Apologies if we haven't been clear on this - should have a better picture over the next week or so.

Arghhh

Don't move the dates!

I was planning on making an appearance!




This.   It was perfectly timed for me. 

Funnily enough this was the one that I was tempted to make my comeback for.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Longines on November 14, 2018, 12:47:04 PM

WSOP-C will happen next year, but the date will probably (pretty certainly) change.
This was pulled from all sites a couple of weeks ago - is it still visible somewhere or do you still have the link in your browser?

Apologies if we haven't been clear on this - should have a better picture over the next week or so.

Neil, https://partypokerlive.com/en/event/wsop-c-uk-2019/schedule# is still live.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Marky147 on November 14, 2018, 12:48:31 PM
WSOP-C will happen next year, but the date will probably (pretty certainly) change.
This was pulled from all sites a couple of weeks ago - is it still visible somewhere or do you still have the link in your browser?

Apologies if we haven't been clear on this - should have a better picture over the next week or so.

It's up in the 'Tournament Events' section on 2p2, but not a lively thread.

Do you have any other expected dates, or is it all TBD, Neil?


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: jakally on November 14, 2018, 01:52:15 PM
The page is still live, just hidden.
Hopefully will know more over the next week or so. Will post in here as soon as there is some news.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: bergeroo on November 14, 2018, 02:17:25 PM
It is listed on various third party sites like hendon mob, global poker index, pokernews etc. You might want to get on them to take it down to avoid confusion.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Jamier-Host on November 14, 2018, 11:55:59 PM
But might as well be 50/100/100 with 15k starting stack.

Would make providing change for the next four levels fun given they would be 60/120, 70/140, 80/160, 90/180...


Ha ha, fair enough. Still generally think the squillion chips thing has gone a bit far though.

I also like the reshove fests late on as it helps negate the skill advantage of my opponents :)


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: RED-DOG on November 15, 2018, 11:43:38 AM
Personally I hate the mega-huge starting stack mega-huge blinds format.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: TightEnd on November 15, 2018, 11:59:37 AM
Personally I hate the mega-huge starting stack mega-huge blinds format.


because?

150x big blind starting is fine isn't it?

lots of extra levels

much much more playable at the business end as a result



Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: RED-DOG on November 15, 2018, 01:22:57 PM
Personally I hate the mega-huge starting stack mega-huge blinds format.


because?

150x big blind starting is fine isn't it?

lots of extra levels

much much more playable at the business end as a result




Oh don't get me wrong, the structure is great, but couldn't it be the same with a 15k starting stack?


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: TightEnd on November 15, 2018, 01:41:35 PM
but why does it matter if the stack to blind ratio is acceptable?

could be 1.5k, 15k, 150k, 1.5m starting depending on if the blinds start at 7.5/15 or 75k/150k

would play the same

starting stack doesn't matter, blind structure does


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Marky147 on November 15, 2018, 01:56:45 PM
Personally I hate the mega-huge starting stack mega-huge blinds format.


because?

150x big blind starting is fine isn't it?

lots of extra levels

much much more playable at the business end as a result




Oh don't get me wrong, the structure is great, but couldn't it be the same with a 15k starting stack?

Longines posted why it wouldn't :)


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: arbboy on November 15, 2018, 02:00:15 PM
Personally I hate the mega-huge starting stack mega-huge blinds format.


because?

150x big blind starting is fine isn't it?

lots of extra levels

much much more playable at the business end as a result




Oh don't get me wrong, the structure is great, but couldn't it be the same with a 15k starting stack?

Tom i used to think exactly the same thing as you.  The key thing you are missing (which i used to miss as well) is with a 15k stack you can't logistically have 700/1400 (70/140) levels because the chips don't work as min chip live is 25 etc.  Its thhese extra levels whicih make the event run more smoothly and have a better structure towards the business end.  As far as i am aware.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: RED-DOG on November 15, 2018, 03:04:23 PM
Personally I hate the mega-huge starting stack mega-huge blinds format.


because?

150x big blind starting is fine isn't it?

lots of extra levels

much much more playable at the business end as a result




Oh don't get me wrong, the structure is great, but couldn't it be the same with a 15k starting stack?

Tom i used to think exactly the same thing as you.  The key thing you are missing (which i used to miss as well) is with a 15k stack you can't logistically have 700/1400 (70/140) levels because the chips don't work as min chip live is 25 etc.  Its thhese extra levels whicih make the event run more smoothly and have a better structure towards the business end.  As far as i am aware.


That sounds reasonable.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: bergeroo on November 15, 2018, 10:07:28 PM
the party live structure is the absolute nuts. A pleasure to play that structure.


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Jamier-Host on November 17, 2018, 09:54:44 PM
the party live structure is the absolute nuts. A pleasure to play that structure.

Sounds like would go on for bloody ages though!


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: Marky147 on November 17, 2018, 10:47:41 PM
the party live structure is the absolute nuts. A pleasure to play that structure.

Sounds like would go on for bloody ages though!

Most of us have qualified for a quid ;D


Title: Re: Structure nowadays in Dtd
Post by: lutonrover on November 28, 2018, 08:42:15 PM
starting stack doesn't matter, blind structure does

Thanks to  everyone  for replies

I agree with Tighty  on this


looks like I will be heading back  to DTD

cheers