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Title: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: Karabiner on December 05, 2018, 12:18:57 AM
My personal opinion is that it was pretty disrespectful and thoroughly classless behaviour and deserves significant punishment.

I would give him a touchline ban for several games.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: youthnkzR on December 05, 2018, 12:45:41 AM
Agreed. I like Klopp but this was out of order.

Seeing as its Klopp I doubt anything happens. If Mourinho he'd have a touchline ban until the the 19/20 season starts (or at least until he gets the boot).


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: scotty2hatty on December 05, 2018, 08:30:24 AM
No way, it's amazing. No punishment IMO.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: Pokerpops on December 05, 2018, 09:01:08 AM
He’s irritating in the extreme (Klopp) but it’s hard to feel any real animosity towards a man with that much passion.

Punishment? Make him do the next pre-match press conference in an Everton shirt.

My only gripe about this is the sense that had it been Mourinho there would have been absolute outrage.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: celtic on December 05, 2018, 11:57:53 AM
Neil Lennon at Hibs got 3 games for something similar. Doubt Klopp will get as much as that.

Shame really, nice to see a bit of passion, and not really worse than picking up a container of drinks and smashing them to the ground.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: Pokerpops on December 05, 2018, 12:21:54 PM
Neil Lennon at Hibs got 3 games for something similar. Doubt Klopp will get as much as that.

Shame really, nice to see a bit of passion, and not really worse than picking up a container of drinks and smashing them to the ground.

A lot less worse, and a lot less contrived too.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: Karabiner on December 05, 2018, 12:29:52 PM
It appears that the punishment is an £8K fine which I find risible.

Good job he didn't kick a water-bottle.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: Tal on December 05, 2018, 12:30:36 PM
Behave like a gentleman. Claims it was a natural reaction to run onto the pitch are absurd: how many years has he managed or played football?

Let's not forget that the goal he celebrated was a horrible mistake by the opposing keeper.

His passion is good for the game. His actions the other night should lead to a touchline ban, as he clearly can't be trusted to behave when he's on one.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: arbboy on December 05, 2018, 12:53:10 PM
Hope Jose does it tonight and takes the £8k fine just for lol's if they get lucky enough to get a point against arsenal. 


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: Marky147 on December 05, 2018, 01:16:54 PM
Hope Jose does it tonight and takes the £8k fine just for lol's if they get lucky enough to get a point against arsenal. 

:D


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: MANTIS01 on December 05, 2018, 01:38:51 PM
Yea let's extract all the emotion out of sport and make it sterile, lol. Punishments for taking off your shirt, jumping in the crowd, or running on the pitch really get my goat.

Managers sitting on the bench and their team score but they remain stock still and emotionless deserves punishment. Mark Hughes constantly moaning on the touchline deserves punishment and so does Maureen always scowling. Klopp engages people into the sport and oozes passion so happy to encourage this.

There was an occasion when Liverpool wanted to stay at one of our resorts and they sent some fella to negotiate the details. When everything was tied up he says "what's the fine for smoking in the room?" We say obv there is no smoking. He goes "yea yea but how much is the fine?" We stick to our guns due to the yawn h&s implications. He insists that whatever the rules Klopp will be smoking in the room and the whole deal rests on us allowing that and accepting a fine. So we lost the deal.

Jurgen Klopp, he smokes where he wants & he runs on the pitch. Love it. 


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: Tal on December 05, 2018, 01:49:46 PM
Run 50 yards onto a pitch - that's ok

Don't walk 50 yards to an area you can legally smoke - massive dealbreaker.

Got it.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: scotty2hatty on December 05, 2018, 02:29:20 PM
Behave like a gentleman. Claims it was a natural reaction to run onto the pitch are absurd: how many years has he managed or played football?

How can we say it wasn't a natural reaction? I've played sports for years and am still reacting differently at scenarios that have happened previously.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: RED-DOG on December 05, 2018, 02:30:34 PM
I think everyone should take their shirt off, light a fag and run onto the pitch.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: scotty2hatty on December 05, 2018, 02:31:00 PM
Yea let's extract all the emotion out of sport and make it sterile, lol. Punishments for taking off your shirt, jumping in the crowd, or running on the pitch really get my goat.

Managers sitting on the bench and their team score but they remain stock still and emotionless deserves punishment. Mark Hughes constantly moaning on the touchline deserves punishment and so does Maureen always scowling. Klopp engages people into the sport and oozes passion so happy to encourage this.

There was an occasion when Liverpool wanted to stay at one of our resorts and they sent some fella to negotiate the details. When everything was tied up he says "what's the fine for smoking in the room?" We say obv there is no smoking. He goes "yea yea but how much is the fine?" We stick to our guns due to the yawn h&s implications. He insists that whatever the rules Klopp will be smoking in the room and the whole deal rests on us allowing that and accepting a fine. So we lost the deal.

Jurgen Klopp, he smokes where he wants & he runs on the pitch. Love it. 


Agree. Also love it.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: celtic on December 05, 2018, 02:37:06 PM
Neil Lennon at Hibs got 3 games for something similar. Doubt Klopp will get as much as that.

Shame really, nice to see a bit of passion, and not really worse than picking up a container of drinks and smashing them to the ground.

A lot less worse, and a lot less contrived too.

Why? & Why?

There's been times when as a fan I've completely lost it and over celebrated a goal. I Imagine as a manager you can x that by 100 then x it by another 100 when it's a last minute winner then x by another 100 when it's in a derby etc.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: MANTIS01 on December 05, 2018, 04:09:59 PM
Run 50 yards onto a pitch - that's ok

Don't walk 50 yards to an area you can legally smoke - massive dealbreaker.

Got it.

60,000 people screaming & cheering stimulates an emotionally-charged euphoric reaction

Thought of dragging yourself out of bed to stand alone in the cold stimulates a pain in the ball-sack

Yardage only important in golf mate


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: Pokerpops on December 05, 2018, 05:16:54 PM
Neil Lennon at Hibs got 3 games for something similar. Doubt Klopp will get as much as that.

Shame really, nice to see a bit of passion, and not really worse than picking up a container of drinks and smashing them to the ground.

A lot less worse, and a lot less contrived too.

Why? & Why?

There's been times when as a fan I've completely lost it and over celebrated a goal. I Imagine as a manager you can x that by 100 then x it by another 100 when it's a last minute winner then x by another 100 when it's in a derby etc.

I think you misunderstood me. I was commenting on the comparison with Mourinho. Klopp’s actions were instinctive and understandable; Mourinho’s was contrived and less understandable.



Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: nirvana on December 05, 2018, 06:03:42 PM
5 game ban imo. I would swap that to see him fined to wear a mask for 26 weeks so I don't have to see his gurning, laughing, irritating passionate face again until next season


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: Chompy on December 05, 2018, 06:33:55 PM
No fine or ban for this sort of thing.

Relax everything apart from a yellow for taking shirt off and a red for giving opposition fans a 'shush' sign.

All part of the fun innit. Watching Fatty Evans on the touchline this season has been way more fun than watching the garbage on it.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: 4KSuited on December 05, 2018, 07:41:38 PM
It's against the rules that the FA has in place, so there needs to be a punishment. In fairness to the FA, they can't just delete the rule that says that the non-playing staff of either team cannot enter the field of play. There'd be chaos. They could delete the rule of a yellow for shirt removal, though: ridic rule.

As for this instance, I'm in the 'Klopp's a cock' camp, but since Marco Silva has been a gent about the situation I can't see why the punishment should be heavy. Tbh I think a one/two match touchline ban would have been more appropriate: £8k's less than he tips after a night out with the boys eh?


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: MANTIS01 on December 05, 2018, 07:53:02 PM
Don't mind a yellow for Giggs removing his shirt and twirling above head. That was disgusting. Wouldn't know whether to congratulate him or ask him how much he was a square yard.

A yellow for Ronaldo revealing his chiselled marble-work is an insult

Needs to be different punishment for different offences


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: 4KSuited on December 05, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
Good idea MANTIS

Forgot about Giggsy's under-jumper: punishment should've been a full wax

Punishment for Ronaldo? Compulsory wearing of one of those broken eye-socket/cheekbone masks. Maybe then he'd stop staring at himself on the monitors during breaks in play: it's embarrassing since his face is probably his least attractive feature  :D


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: celtic on December 06, 2018, 01:04:26 AM
Neil Lennon at Hibs got 3 games for something similar. Doubt Klopp will get as much as that.

Shame really, nice to see a bit of passion, and not really worse than picking up a container of drinks and smashing them to the ground.

A lot less worse, and a lot less contrived too.

Why? & Why?

There's been times when as a fan I've completely lost it and over celebrated a goal. I Imagine as a manager you can x that by 100 then x it by another 100 when it's a last minute winner then x by another 100 when it's in a derby etc.

I think you misunderstood me. I was commenting on the comparison with Mourinho. Klopp’s actions were instinctive and understandable; Mourinho’s was contrived and less understandable.



I think i did 😀


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: cambridgealex on December 06, 2018, 01:26:52 AM
Is pokerpops and David3103 (?) the same person? They sure seem like it! (Sorry have been absent of blonde goss for a while)


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 06, 2018, 07:08:28 AM
Is pokerpops and David3103 (?) the same person? They sure seem like it! (Sorry have been absent of blonde goss for a while)

Yes.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: Pokerpops on December 06, 2018, 08:07:48 AM
Is pokerpops and David3103 (?) the same person? They sure seem like it! (Sorry have been absent of blonde goss for a while)

Yep, made no secret of it since my return from an enforced absence.


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: BigAdz on December 06, 2018, 08:09:28 AM
Is pokerpops and David3103 (?) the same person? They sure seem like it! (Sorry have been absent of blonde goss for a while)


Why do people suddenly reappear as someone else?

My instant reaction is they think they might be more popular this time round.........?


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: Marky147 on December 06, 2018, 01:45:29 PM
Is pokerpops and David3103 (?) the same person? They sure seem like it! (Sorry have been absent of blonde goss for a while)


Why do people suddenly reappear as someone else?

My instant reaction is they think they might be more popular this time round.........?

My instant reaction is they lost their password and no longer use the email they signed up with ;)



Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: TightEnd on December 06, 2018, 03:43:04 PM
Hi a while back David had an issue with DTD which eventually put us here on blonde in an awkward spot, one of those "there is no solution here where we aren't going to get smacked around" things and inevitably we were.

Post DTD's involvement when David came back under a new name (one i was familiar with from APAT, having known David for a number of years) we (I?) took the pragmatic approach that rather than stick to our rule, which we try to, of not allowing duplicate accounts that David should carry on and mutually we agreed to let byegones be byegones and instead just argue about Brexit instead :-)

this is just to say that in this instance the reason for the second name is as much down to us as it is him and there's nothing negative to be read into it


Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: Pokerpops on December 06, 2018, 03:48:13 PM
Hi a while back David had an issue with DTD which eventually put us here on blonde in an awkward spot, one of those "there is no solution here where we aren't going to get smacked around" things and inevitably we were.

Post DTD's involvement when David came back under a new name (one i was familiar with from APAT, having known David for a number of years) we (I?) took the pragmatic approach that rather than stick to our rule, which we try to, of not allowing duplicate accounts that David should carry on and mutually we agreed to let byegones be byegones and instead just argue about Brexit instead :-)

this is just to say that in this instance the reason for the second name is as much down to us as it is him and there's nothing negative to be read into it

I am very appreciative of the team’s (Tighty’s) willingness to allow my return. I can say with absolute honesty that I missed being here, far more than I miss playing poker at the BRS Ranch.

I prefer the new name anyway :)



Title: Re: Klopp: What Punishment Is Appropriate?
Post by: TheDazzler on December 06, 2018, 07:22:21 PM
Is pokerpops and David3103 (?) the same person? They sure seem like it! (Sorry have been absent of blonde goss for a while)


Why do people suddenly reappear as someone else?

My instant reaction is they think they might be more popular this time round.........?

Why haven't you tried it then? :)
Joking, joking, I think I should probably try it myself :)