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Title: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Longines on April 14, 2019, 03:45:00 PM
Tournament starts with a published structure and late entry until the end of level 8 which would be 25bb.

Without notice, level 4 is rolled back to be the same as level 3. No idea what the next levels are going to be.

Unacceptable or all's fair in love and war and overlays?



Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: RED-DOG on April 14, 2019, 03:51:44 PM
Unacceptable unless the possibility is muted beforehand IMO.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Longines on April 14, 2019, 04:07:12 PM
TD hopes there will be no more "mistakes".


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Doobs on April 14, 2019, 04:16:25 PM
Ha, arrived late in level 3 and didn't notice.  observant me.   where are you at?


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Doobs on April 14, 2019, 04:30:19 PM
Can't see it been anything other than a mistake and dare say that 20bbs vs 25bbs isn't going to make much difference.

I am only concerned with my bedtime and the fact I may be forced to rebuy now because of the potential overlay...


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Longines on April 14, 2019, 04:30:20 PM
Red jumper, grey hair, 40k chips.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Doobs on April 14, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
Red jumper, grey hair, 40k chips.

will say hello at the break.   am sat in front of you opposite padraig parkinson.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Pokerpops on April 14, 2019, 06:19:22 PM
Tournament starts with a published structure and late entry until the end of level 8 which would be 25bb.

Without notice, level 4 is rolled back to be the same as level 3. No idea what the next levels are going to be.

Unacceptable or all's fair in love and war and overlays?



 I assume this is at the Lenton Shed? Their organisational skills would normally be above the level f making such a mistake.

Was the structure published beforehand?

I’ve been there when they added in an extra break to extend the time before entry closes which is less of a fudge.

Neither move is as bad as adding an extra Day 1 to the advertised schedule.




Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: EvilPie on April 14, 2019, 07:46:53 PM
Tournament starts with a published structure and late entry until the end of level 8 which would be 25bb.

Without notice, level 4 is rolled back to be the same as level 3. No idea what the next levels are going to be.

Unacceptable or all's fair in love and war and overlays?



 I assume this is at the Lenton Shed? Their organisational skills would normally be above the level f making such a mistake.

Was the structure published beforehand?

I’ve been there when they added in an extra break to extend the time before entry closes which is less of a fudge.

Neither move is as bad as adding an extra Day 1 to the advertised schedule.




But it's "due to popular demand"......


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Karabiner on April 14, 2019, 07:57:10 PM
Tournament starts with a published structure and late entry until the end of level 8 which would be 25bb.

Without notice, level 4 is rolled back to be the same as level 3. No idea what the next levels are going to be.

Unacceptable or all's fair in love and war and overlays?



 I assume this is at the Lenton Shed? Their organisational skills would normally be above the level f making such a mistake.

Was the structure published beforehand?

I’ve been there when they added in an extra break to extend the time before entry closes which is less of a fudge.

Neither move is as bad as adding an extra Day 1 to the advertised schedule.




But it's "due to popular demand"......


Or "for the benefit of our travelling players"...


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Doobs on April 14, 2019, 08:07:30 PM
big overlay, so nobody complaining here.  72 players, 50k guarantee.   Simon Trumper is in.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Longines on April 15, 2019, 08:16:37 AM

 I assume this is at the Lenton Shed? Their organisational skills would normally be above the level f making such a mistake.

Was the structure published beforehand?

The structure was published in advance. They were also told during level 2 that the next level was displaying incorrectly but presumably they were unable and/or unwilling to change it.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Karabiner on April 15, 2019, 09:44:32 AM
I see Phil "The Power" Clarke won it, top man with a great sense of humour.

Used to post on here once..


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Doobs on April 15, 2019, 10:39:21 AM
I'll just add that there were only 5 new entries during the last break, and possibly some re-entries.  Nobody was discussing the extra level at my table at all; if anybody else noticed it I didn't hear them say anything anyway.  It seems the big overlay was much more significant than the extra level to me. 

The food service was pretty awful though; think that has always been the way. 

The comp was a bit mixed ability, but I didn't play that well and I got schooled by the fella on my left in the last couple of levels.  It was definitely worth showing up for.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: bergeroo on April 15, 2019, 01:25:47 PM
I was very surprised by the overlays in all the side events.

Did everyone just do their brains in the Colossus the week before? Was it because of no direct satties to the side events and people don't like the PPL$ system? People prefer to go do Dublin this week?


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Marky147 on April 15, 2019, 01:27:20 PM
I was very surprised by the overlays in all the side events.

Did everyone just do their brains in the Colossus the week before? Was it because of no direct satties to the side events and people don't like the PPL$ system? People prefer to go do Dublin this week?

I was going to go for a few events, but every man and his dog seems to be remortgaging this month.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Doobs on April 15, 2019, 01:49:05 PM
I was very surprised by the overlays in all the side events.

Did everyone just do their brains in the Colossus the week before? Was it because of no direct satties to the side events and people don't like the PPL$ system? People prefer to go do Dublin this week?

I just paid in cash at the club, though can't say PPL$ makes it clearer.  Maybe some are comfused by them and assume they can't pay cash?  I am pretty crap at keeping in touch, but I had forgotten all about it until a week ago.  I really only get excited by the WSOP these days.

I blame Brexit :)


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: titaniumbean on April 15, 2019, 02:35:04 PM
I was very surprised by the overlays in all the side events.

Did everyone just do their brains in the Colossus the week before? Was it because of no direct satties to the side events and people don't like the PPL$ system? People prefer to go do Dublin this week?

given you can expense hotels aswell as buyin with PPL, and the huge amounts of value in the guaranteed PPL sats they are running, I can only think that they had a positive influence on numbers in general. I was genuinely surprised at how many people had traveled from abroad to play.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Longines on April 15, 2019, 02:42:00 PM
I was genuinely surprised at how many people had traveled from abroad to play.

Indeed, was very impressed by the Norwegian number plate in the car park. On a Tesla.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Rexas on April 16, 2019, 01:22:10 AM
I was genuinely surprised at how many people had traveled from abroad to play.

Indeed, was very impressed by the Norwegian number plate in the car park. On a Tesla.

That actually belongs to a total hero who used to be a dealer at DTD and now does the chip room at a bunch of tour stops, so that was a staff member :p


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: tikay on April 16, 2019, 09:01:08 AM
I see Phil "The Power" Clarke won it, top man with a great sense of humour.

Used to post on here once..

A few blasts from the past here;



(http://i.imgur.com/GCrVa0q.jpg) (https://imgur.com/GCrVa0q)


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: KarmaDope on April 17, 2019, 04:54:25 PM
How many can you name, Tikay?


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: tikay on April 17, 2019, 05:47:14 PM
How many can you name, Tikay?

Not enough.

4, maybe 5 at best.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Doobs on April 17, 2019, 11:20:09 PM
How many can you name, Tikay?

Not enough.

4, maybe 5 at best.

who is the fella between stato and the champ.   He was sat on my table all day.   Seemed a nice fella and decent at O8.  He looked vaguely familar but I am terrible with faces.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: tikay on April 17, 2019, 11:54:01 PM
How many can you name, Tikay?

Not enough.

4, maybe 5 at best.

who is the fella between stato and the champ.   He was sat on my table all day.   Seemed a nice fella and decent at O8.  He looked vaguely familar but I am terrible with faces.


Dark blue shirt & beige jacket?

That's Basharat Mahmood, usually known as "Bash" or "Basha".

God knows how many cashes he has had at DTD, & before that, at Gala Notts, could run into hundreds. I rarely saw him elsewhere.

Looks like he's lost a bunch of weight, he had quite the pot belly last time I saw him.

Here's his THM;


 https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=102310


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: KarmaDope on April 18, 2019, 08:41:45 AM
How many can you name, Tikay?

Not enough.

4, maybe 5 at best.

I was trying to work out who the fella to the other side of Stato was, with the glasses. Sure I've seen him around a few times. Reminded me of RichEO at first, whom I haven't seen for a number of years.

I was disappointed with myself that I could only name 4.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: tikay on April 18, 2019, 08:56:46 AM
How many can you name, Tikay?

Not enough.

4, maybe 5 at best.

I was trying to work out who the fella to the other side of Stato was, with the glasses. Sure I've seen him around a few times. Reminded me of RichEO at first, whom I haven't seen for a number of years.

I was disappointed with myself that I could only name 4.

Seems too young to be RichEO. Wonder what he is up to these days?


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: tonytats on April 18, 2019, 03:19:52 PM
Is that mad dog on there to the left
Nice old guy from Northampton area
Never knew he won anything?
Must have crashed in


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Chompy on April 18, 2019, 05:50:08 PM
Looks like him. Not seen him in Luton for an eternity.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: arbboy on April 18, 2019, 06:12:03 PM
How many can you name, Tikay?

Not enough.

4, maybe 5 at best.

I was trying to work out who the fella to the other side of Stato was, with the glasses. Sure I've seen him around a few times. Reminded me of RichEO at first, whom I haven't seen for a number of years.

I was disappointed with myself that I could only name 4.

John McCann long time pro over a decade.  Live and online.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Karabiner on April 19, 2019, 11:08:01 PM
What happened to page #3 of this thread?

I'm sure it was here earlier.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Marky147 on April 19, 2019, 11:29:42 PM
Went to a better place.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: tikay on April 19, 2019, 11:30:52 PM
What happened to page #3 of this thread?

I'm sure it was here earlier.

It had to be removed Ralph, some problems arose.


Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
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Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Karabiner on April 20, 2019, 11:09:09 AM

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Title: Re: Changing tournament structure mid-comp to mitigate overlay, acceptable?
Post by: Marky147 on April 20, 2019, 06:03:23 PM

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