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Title: What is Nate missing?
Post by: TightEnd on July 03, 2019, 12:24:23 PM
Nate Silver, the pre-eminent US pollster of 538 posts as follows:

"As far as I can tell there are 10 major causes of death in a poker tournament. In this context, I don't necessarily mean the very last hand you play to bust out, but the hand that most contributes to your demise. I'm sure there are some edge cases. But am I missing any big ones?"


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: Knottikay on July 03, 2019, 04:04:47 PM
AA v KK on 1st hand/orbit/level on a AKx flop (if the money didnt go aipf)


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: RED-DOG on July 03, 2019, 04:21:35 PM
Nate Silver, the pre-eminent US pollster of 538 posts as follows:

"As far as I can tell there are 10 major causes of death in a poker tournament. In this context, I don't necessarily mean the very last hand you play to bust out, but the hand that most contributes to your demise. I'm sure there are some edge cases. But am I missing any big ones?"


Discover that one of the spades in your nut flush is a club.

I know, I was that soldier.


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: Pokerpops on July 03, 2019, 05:21:27 PM
Some of the causes of being wet

a) taking a shower or bath
b) getting caught in the rain
c) having someone unload a water pistol over you
d) swimming
e) falling in a river or pond
f) losing control of your bladder
g) spilling your drink over yourself






Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: RED-DOG on July 03, 2019, 06:21:35 PM
Some of the causes of being wet

a) taking a shower or bath
b) getting caught in the rain
c) having someone unload a water pistol over you
d) swimming
e) falling in a river or pond
f) losing control of your bladder
g) spilling your drink over yourself






I don't get it Dave.


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: Pokerpops on July 03, 2019, 07:20:56 PM
Some of the causes of being wet

a) taking a shower or bath
b) getting caught in the rain
c) having someone unload a water pistol over you
d) swimming
e) falling in a river or pond
f) losing control of your bladder
g) spilling your drink over yourself






I don't get it Dave.


Just a list of obvious ways to become wet to go along with the list of obvious ways to lose chips.


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: RED-DOG on July 03, 2019, 07:38:21 PM
Some of the causes of being wet

a) taking a shower or bath
b) getting caught in the rain
c) having someone unload a water pistol over you
d) swimming
e) falling in a river or pond
f) losing control of your bladder
g) spilling your drink over yourself






I don't get it Dave.


Just a list of obvious ways to become wet to go along with the list of obvious ways to lose chips.


Yes but there are obviously hundreds of ways to get wet, I can't think of many more ways of going bust than those listed.


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: RED-DOG on July 03, 2019, 07:49:25 PM
I enjoyed your examples though.


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: Tal on July 03, 2019, 07:51:08 PM
Seems to be missing two:

11) Make a terrible mistake (misread, miscalculation or poor assessment) and base your decision on it

12) As above, but you lie about it and pretend it's 1-10.

Not speaking from personal experience or anything, Guv...


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: RED-DOG on July 03, 2019, 07:54:49 PM
Seems to be missing two:

11) Make a terrible mistake (misread, miscalculation or poor assessment) and base your decision on it

12) As above, but you lie about it and pretend it's 1-10.

Not speaking from personal experience or anything, Guv...


Yes. My nut flush example would come under your #11


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: RED-DOG on July 03, 2019, 07:56:07 PM
I didn't get the chance to do a twelve because I'd already tabled it with a flourish.


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: Tal on July 03, 2019, 08:03:13 PM
Seems to be missing two:

11) Make a terrible mistake (misread, miscalculation or poor assessment) and base your decision on it

12) As above, but you lie about it and pretend it's 1-10.

Not speaking from personal experience or anything, Guv...


Yes. My nut flush example would come under your #11

Exactly. Mr Silver seems to think you only get out when playing well. I'm sad to report there are other ways.


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: Jon MW on July 03, 2019, 08:15:36 PM
Seems to be missing two:

11) Make a terrible mistake (misread, miscalculation or poor assessment) and base your decision on it

12) As above, but you lie about it and pretend it's 1-10.

Not speaking from personal experience or anything, Guv...


Yes. My nut flush example would come under your #11

Exactly. Mr Silver seems to think you only get out when playing well. I'm sad to report there are other ways.

Similar to that I'd say a few of those things could have something along the lines of, "or the perception of" added.


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: Supernova on July 04, 2019, 12:33:48 PM
Nate Silver, the pre-eminent US pollster of 538 posts as follows:

"As far as I can tell there are 10 major causes of death in a poker tournament. In this context, I don't necessarily mean the very last hand you play to bust out, but the hand that most contributes to your demise. I'm sure there are some edge cases. But am I missing any big ones?"


Discover that one of the spades in your nut flush is a club.

I know, I was that soldier.

From excitement to embarrassment when your AA is actually A4. I saw that happen to someone next door on the SPT and they said oops, it's not the first time I've done that.


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: Doobs on July 04, 2019, 12:59:34 PM
Nate Silver, the pre-eminent US pollster of 538 posts as follows:

"As far as I can tell there are 10 major causes of death in a poker tournament. In this context, I don't necessarily mean the very last hand you play to bust out, but the hand that most contributes to your demise. I'm sure there are some edge cases. But am I missing any big ones?"


Discover that one of the spades in your nut flush is a club.

I know, I was that soldier.

From excitement to embarrassment when your AA is actually A4. I saw that happen to someone next door on the SPT and they said oops, it's not the first time I've done that.

Called off most of my stack with a straight 8 high.  I should have folded when he hit the flush on the river anyway!


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: roshambo on July 05, 2019, 03:23:32 PM
11. being shit at poker
12. Staking TK


Title: Re: What is Nate missing?
Post by: Simon Galloway on July 13, 2019, 11:23:57 AM
Deliberately overplaying your hand with the intent of re-entering, or perhaps not having to come back for a day2 with a micro stack

Tilt.