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Title: Pokerstars - rakeback - frustration
Post by: mikeymike2 on February 14, 2021, 11:55:34 AM
Since November I have played cash only on PS - I really do not like there reward system, so I decided to make a one man stand and every couple of days when I upgraded to a new chest level I would immediately exchange back down to the basic blue chest picking up 60 star coins each time.

I know this is slightly detrimental as in theory the bigger chests should = more reward - though to me RB is just additional bunce as my win rate is in the good +++ level.

However, I have now been caught out by the AI instead of getting 60 star coins for each chest they give me 10 star coins and 2 x 25c spin tickets. I do not play Spins on PS

I am now wondering do I have to take my chest levels to level 4 to get the system to reset.

Any thoughts - also as an aside I have been told that not depositing and just leaving your money on site does have a detrimental effect on the RB and rewards


Title: Re: Pokerstars - rakeback - frustration
Post by: Doobs on February 14, 2021, 12:02:01 PM
Where is your data on this mikey?  Seems people who speculate on withdrawals are just guessing, and if there is a connection stables would be gaming it, and we'd all know about it through 2 plus 2 by now.

To be fair two 25c spin and goes every couple of days sounds pretty good compared to what I get.  Maybe going to the lowest level is the way forward? 


Title: Re: Pokerstars - rakeback - frustration
Post by: mikeymike2 on February 14, 2021, 03:35:26 PM
Doobs - will try to find the link to the poker site that mentioned not depositing - the site gave a weighted breakdown of all chests and in some cases the top tier chest paid the same percentage

They did however point out that if you use your coins to play the deal once every 12 hours your returns would be better than the chests RB and once the deal was over 274,000 (i think was the number) playing at 70 stars was beneficial -

Will try to find the site and post it here


Title: Re: Pokerstars - rakeback - frustration
Post by: mikeymike2 on February 15, 2021, 05:09:17 PM
Spoke to Stars - who confirmed that what is in the chest should be representative of the games you play - i have had 5 chests all the same 10 coins 2 x 25c spins - obviously the content can not be random - but because I used the spin tickets - apparently I now play spins which is why I now get spin tickets - so my rake back bunce has gone from $6 for 10 chests to 60c for ten chests - as the value of the spin ticket is only any good if i win the spin.

Oh and to add a bit extra they have decided to make my account have additional casino bonuses which is even more strange as I have never been on the casino site.

Finally - they have given me a chest bonus worth $5000 - trouble is I can only access it if I MOVE UP in the cash game stakes - why would I when I am content playing at the level I am at

Rock on live play coming back


Title: Re: Pokerstars - rakeback - frustration
Post by: titaniumbean on February 16, 2021, 01:04:21 PM
the value of the spin ticket is only any good if i win the spin.


So you're saying you get some $ value in tournament ticket equity? :)

Oh and to add a bit extra they have decided to make my account have additional casino bonuses which is even more strange as I have never been on the casino site.


Strange? almost like they see a profitable unused vertical and offer you a bonus to explore a part of the site you might not know existed?


Title: Re: Pokerstars - rakeback - frustration
Post by: mikeymike2 on February 16, 2021, 02:18:16 PM
Yes - i have been lucky and won a few spins currently 50 percent @ .75 cents

With regard to the casino bonuses I have been given free bets and other baubles from PS over the last 5 years but I choose not to use them and they eventually disappear -  I am a man who can not be bribed with mere bagatelles -


Title: Re: Pokerstars - rakeback - frustration
Post by: mikeymike2 on February 17, 2021, 05:09:56 PM
After opening 4 more chests all with Spin tickets - I am probably the first player to cancel their RB - after a long conversation with chat I asked them to delete all mtt tickets - spin tickets - casino bonuses - pso tickets - the works

Which after some persuasion they did Hussar - I should now be on zero RB - Hussar - 


Title: Re: Pokerstars - rakeback - frustration
Post by: Doobs on February 17, 2021, 05:33:51 PM
After opening 4 more chests all with Spin tickets - I am probably the first player to cancel their RB - after a long conversation with chat I asked them to delete all mtt tickets - spin tickets - casino bonuses - pso tickets - the works

Which after some persuasion they did Hussar - I should now be on zero RB - Hussar - 

More rake is better?  Please send free spins to my account, I am lucky to get a weekly freeroll ticket to a time I never play.  Maybe we can swap?


Title: Re: Pokerstars - rakeback - frustration
Post by: bergeroo on February 17, 2021, 05:43:34 PM
After opening 4 more chests all with Spin tickets - I am probably the first player to cancel their RB - after a long conversation with chat I asked them to delete all mtt tickets - spin tickets - casino bonuses - pso tickets - the works

Which after some persuasion they did Hussar - I should now be on zero RB - Hussar - 

not really sure why you would do that?


Title: Re: Pokerstars - rakeback - frustration
Post by: mikeymike2 on February 18, 2021, 09:49:34 AM
I did ask them if I could transfer the tickets and they said NO - shame they don't have a page where you could donate the tickets and bonuses to charity. Sorry Doobs

Bergeroo - All because I go to my mates club and there is a private room with a jar of freshly rolled £20 notes and a couple of feet of some white powder which is free to me- neither compels me to take the £20 notes or avail myself to the white powder - the same goes for a poker site giving me mtt tickets - spins and casino bonuses - if they want to give me rake back , give me something that I want.

Also by issuing these so called bonuses they are in fact just reducing the Rake Back - it does seem that if you are a non depositing player you receive less which I don't understand why they do it because my rake paid is far more consistent than that of a player who just pops in loses and comes back a month later

Never the less it still is Happy Days -


Title: Re: Pokerstars - rakeback - frustration
Post by: mikeymike2 on February 24, 2021, 03:14:09 PM
I would say Unbelievable - as of today my rewards chest at the basic level has increased by 33 percent and as the rakeback is fixed at 60c per chest - all though I have binned the spins and mtt tickets it now means that the measly 10 star coins I get per chest is costing me far more in rake.

Spoke to chat - basically withdraw and go and play somewhere else for a month or two and get a reset - or suck it up - only trouble is where can you find consistent 9 ring games other than PS



Title: Re: Pokerstars - rakeback - frustration
Post by: doubleup on February 24, 2021, 06:49:03 PM
where can you find consistent 9 ring games other than PS

I'm sure you can get something from the doctor if you have trouble sleeping.