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1  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 22, 2010, 09:46:06 PM
Just saw this on the Hendon Mob DB...

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Anyone heard of this James Dempsey bloke btw?
[ x ] Doesnt know POKERZ
2  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 22, 2010, 12:38:50 PM
i think that maybe everyone who is finacially involved or has any decent ideas (i know i do ) all meet at say dee tee dee or where ever  to talk/plan a resolve. may be tighty can set the time place
A lot of who I know have lost out on this are in Vegas at the minute for the WSOP, probably with a  lot of others I dont know.   Logistcally all having to eet a DTD would mean that some have to take time off work and travel, spending more money because of this idiot.  I am sure Tighty would set up a child forum hidden from joe public like myself and allow discussions to go on in there between everyone.   This would enable everyone to keep updated and converse ina  manner without interuption from others, It will also cut the wheat from the chaff so to speak
3  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 22, 2010, 12:50:59 AM
Last chance of even the tinniest repayment has probably gone then.

Might as well close thread and move on
Another ill informed post if he has syphoned this off and passed the money on then it can be reclaimned under the proceeds of crime act. 
4  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 21, 2010, 09:59:57 PM
Mods is this a gimmick account?
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10882

Can you check the IP comes fromthe same area or at least matches Beils in the MODCP?
5  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 21, 2010, 06:49:55 PM

I'm sure with the Clarkson thing that there were enough people with access to other personal information about him (people who work in banks, police, etc.) who saw his 'challenge' that it would have been a surprise if they hadn't been able to set up a direct debit to a charity.

In fact he wouldn't have had to post any details for someone to do that really, would he?
Kinboshi, not a awful lot is needed, I have a copy of UKInfo and can also searchloads of databases.  If someone is detrmined and knows whats what then it is no probs
6  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 21, 2010, 05:52:14 PM
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stating your bank details

anyone else worried about this

Giving ur sort code and account number is fine.

jeremy clarkson thought that until people started setting up direct debits out of his account
Dubai, you might be a member on here for some time with a lot of posts but a lot of what you post is so infactually incorrect.  I think you shouldnt bother unless you know what you are talking about.
7  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 21, 2010, 04:20:13 PM


Anything deposited initially wont be seen as fraud. Snap for any investments made during any period when he was actually betting on football. Id guess this is a large %. Wouldnt you?
Again the same.
8  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 21, 2010, 02:20:14 PM
Apologies if the following questions are stupid or irritating - I have read the whole thing, and my commiserations to all those involved, but I might well have missed something.

Is it still not possible after all Floppy's work to calculate how much money was lost on the Betfair account and how much was outright stolen? Am I right in thinking that nobody has added up exactly how much money was sent to him, and no-one can find out even with access to the account how much was deposited and withdrawn (on top of the figures that were dumped)?

P&L is -43,584.20

Though some of this was dumped from one account to another.


OK. About £20.7k was dumped according to NoFlops' numbers, so he actually lost about £23k?

Again, apologies if I'm actually going over well-trodden ground here. It's not really any of my business. But from here it feels like everyone's concentrating disproportionately on the Betfair account and the betting side of things, and the lies he told. It sounds like everyone's giving up on the money, assuming it's all lost etc (it may be). And then all the talk of how it will be too complicated for the police to understand blah blah.

But it's not actually complicated in the slightest, is it? He lost £23k and now he won't send back any money, so he outright stole ~£45k, or whatever the exact figure is, plus Vegas money and whatnot. Some of that went through a Betfair account, some of it didn't, but whether or not it was used on any exchanges or not in the interim is basically irrelevant. Am I out of line in thinking that there's been too much talk about and dissection of the details, and not enough reporting to the police by everyone involved of a blatant £45k theft? (* People may obviously have been doing this behind the scenes, I wouldn't know, and I'm probably not going to post again on this since, as I say, probably not my business.)



Think they are all very valid points



The only reliable indicator(s) are going to be
a) His bank account, failing that
b) List of people who 'donated' money

Since people wanted to remain anonymous I think you'll be hard pressed to discover the true amount. If police did investigate and reviewed his bank account, they'd not likely disclose the amount until it was in court.



Think maybe one of the mods should compile a list of PM's of who has sent money.   A lot are not going to post their amounts from a embarassment/private perspective.  No need for others to be privy to that info
9  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 21, 2010, 02:00:51 PM
I hope flops work is not undone by a totally different transaction history from Betfair, should be easy to compare though to see if there has been any amendments to the sheet by Neil
10  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 21, 2010, 09:48:22 AM

Brilliant Chris....thanks alot thumbs up
this
11  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 21, 2010, 01:39:01 AM
I cant understand what u have wrote. What do u expect?
You say new members should be locked I dont see what that gains??  The more new signups the better? Surely?

I am not a member of blonde but a member of Gutshot, THMF, PL, Betfair etc etc and I have posted this on their sites and some of them remember him from old and have added positively to this thread.

Surely thmore that are exposed t this the less that are exposed to his going ons?  As flops has shown it was a long con from the start?

We are verydifferent to most communities where we place a lot of respect and trust in people, even more so when they hit a big score and those that do are more likely to grim from us down below.  

The more exposure is surely better than none at all?
12  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 21, 2010, 01:34:16 AM
BAN THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST JOINED POSTING
sont be fucking stupid Dubai the more that see the better so this ***** cannot continue.  I was rought here because of this and although not a member on hereI started the Facebook group to war others as no one else wuld start one and do you know what I saw?

Every member from blond that joined the group I had at least 5 common friends............so if some ***** like this can doa  lng con then it is likely all that come here know someone effedted one way or the other and better everyone knows within the circuits than a select few.    

We are all adult enough to read through the arbboy arse licking and so called jovial jokes but the more exposure the better FOR OUR COMMUNITY!!

Yes im definitely the person who is stupid.
lame reply mate
13  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 21, 2010, 01:31:59 AM
If Blatch had sole control of the account why would he bother moving the money from one account to another?

Why not simply withdraw from the trading account?
Probably Keith because his initial thought was to skim off of the top until it went skew whiff
14  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 21, 2010, 01:21:09 AM
anyone got any credit on 192.com? apparently there's a director's report on blatch as well as his address. shame none of his mates want give out that info.

anyone know anything about debt collection agencies? they all legal and kosher these days and this would be more of a know a man down the pub thing?



I have a copy of UKInfo (192 in data format) only company listed is the one I mentined earlier 5million portfolio ltd
15  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading on: June 21, 2010, 01:20:24 AM
The whole community owes Chris a debt of gratitude.

Excellent work.

For Neil to come on and post what even more lies while Chris was busy exposing the truth is just breathtaking.
Spot on Keith
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