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1  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Updates / Re: DTD July Deepstack £100,000 GTD: Final Day on: July 03, 2011, 11:16:24 PM
gary must have been massively card dead given the deal for him to blind away like that with £5k locked up anyway.  Not his style of play at all.  
2  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Updates / Re: DTD July Deepstack £100,000 GTD: Final Day on: July 03, 2011, 10:47:06 PM
more shocked the short stacks have been blinded away to redic short stacks relative to the blinds when they were all gtd 5k and all the money was upstairs.
3  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Updates / Re: DTD July Deepstack £100,000 GTD: Final Day on: July 03, 2011, 10:13:08 PM
really surprised gary got this short given the deal being so flat and how he usually plays at stoke.  What is his chip count after the treble up?
4  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Updates / Re: DTD July Deepstack £100,000 GTD: Final Day on: July 03, 2011, 09:40:25 PM


I disagree.  I think a fair number of sat winners (not all obv) treat the £20-£40 spent on a sat into the £300 deepstack as a casual bet like doing a football coupon etc.  If they were given the chance to close out their football coupon with one game to go to win £9k most casual gamblers would probably choose to do this.

this is not +ev, so imo starts a vicious circle.

Correct but not everyone who gambles does so for +ev spots and when they have a chance to win relative big money locking in a profit at what seems a -EV spot in pure theory can actually be +EV if you consider the uses of the cash won to save on loan/interest payments etc.  The vast majority of people consider casual forms of gambling as entertainment not investment.  Playing a £20 sat to have a shot at the big time (for most people playing the £300 at dtd would be their biggest live event ever played) then the ability to make a five figure sum whatever the EV of the deal makes a lot of sense
5  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Updates / Re: DTD July Deepstack £100,000 GTD: Final Day on: July 03, 2011, 09:34:19 PM
average stack please and gary strangs stack
6  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Updates / Re: DTD July Deepstack £100,000 GTD: Final Day on: July 03, 2011, 09:26:21 PM
people forget the opportunity cost of winning £9k.  Its not just the £9k in cash.  It could also be £5k+ saved in interest on a £9k credit card/loan repayment etc which can be cleared early.  So effectively the £9k is worth £14k potentially.  Therefore in this case making a bad EV deal a good EV deal.  Plus the added lack of stress of having debts hanging over you. Similarly if the player is staked into this the £9k might allow him to play his regular games without staking and keep a much bigger chunk of his future income to him/herself.


I doubt players who are finacially instable would make this +ev choice of repayment. I know a few degens who will just see it as 9k gambling tokens! I guess thats what brought them into the tourney in the first instance.

I disagree.  I think a fair number of sat winners (not all obv) treat the £20-£40 spent on a sat into the £300 deepstack as a casual bet like doing a football coupon etc.  If they were given the chance to close out their football coupon with one game to go to win £9k most casual gamblers would probably choose to do this.
7  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Updates / Re: DTD July Deepstack £100,000 GTD: Final Day on: July 03, 2011, 09:03:23 PM
people forget the opportunity cost of winning £9k.  Its not just the £9k in cash.  It could also be £5k+ saved in interest on a £9k credit card/loan repayment etc which can be cleared early.  So effectively the £9k is worth £14k potentially.  Therefore in this case making a bad EV deal a good EV deal.  Plus the added lack of stress of having debts hanging over you. Similarly if the player is staked into this the £9k might allow him to play his regular games without staking and keep a much bigger chunk of his future income to him/herself.

This event is one of the best events in the UK for mixing total amateurs (due to the sheer number of sat winners) and full time pros and everyone inbetween.  I dont really get why people are surprised when diff months throw up different deals on the final table depending who is has reached the final table.
8  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Updates / Re: DTD July Deepstack £100,000 GTD: Final Day on: July 03, 2011, 08:16:33 PM
what are his reasons for being anon? 
9  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Updates / Re: DTD July Deepstack £100,000 GTD: Final Day on: July 03, 2011, 08:03:46 PM
insane deal for the short stacks if the deal was done at the stated opening final table chip counts.
10  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Updates / Re: DTD July Deepstack £100,000 GTD: Final Day on: July 03, 2011, 07:41:59 PM
get there strangy.  Show Dave McCoy who stokes finest really is!!!!!!
11  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Updates / Re: DTD July Deepstack £100,000 GTD: Final Day on: July 03, 2011, 07:04:13 PM
Can you wish Gary Strang all the best.  One of stokes trickiest cash players.  Had many a good night playing cash with Gaz at the circus.  Would love to see him take this down as i am following the updates from vegas.  
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