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elblondie
Mrs C
Tikay
Jo
djinn
Ironside
RED DOG
Colchester Kev (tbc)
Snoopy1239
RobertHM
TightEnd
The Baron
Sheriff
allym
Mikky T
Anita Mikky T
Andrew T
Londonpokergirl
patman
canuck
ScotlandStu
Gamblor21
rod paradise
inthebelly
lightbreeze
rookieitb
matt674
poppet7
ruthless1
the Jagster
Chili
thetank
dingdell
dingdell +1
Scottish Dave
timaloy
scottm
newmanseye
BlueWolf
Smiler
cyber
weefifi
12BarBlues
p3rcy
peeveen
4dam
drinkstella
RFC
Karabiner
Owner
Flushy
Ginger
Teacake
Gatso
GlasgowBandit
Troy McLure
Div
Fergus8
onenote
twonote
Jim-D
Jammer
Aria
BigTomatoes
madasahatstand
BradleyStrider
Pokerdave69 +1 (non player)
IFM + 1
IFM
Cupcake
johnlarsson
NorthAngel
JustJo
WSOPin06
Bazzaboy
Solver
Skippyskip
cambo
kerrbear
tinseltown
Bongo
Decider
netclectic (clever name  )
yt
slipperyfish
happybhoy
Dewi Cool
BigArmo
Geist
10JQKA
the Patriot
DC
Jamier Host
Heswall
shieldsyitb
shortstackitb
4kingnutz
boyfriendscousinkev
fruity-69
lazaroonie
sheight
DR WAX 
raab11
ric_ard
golfer24_7
hartlepoolfan
damon
K_M
Suited_Jock
Sue_H
tomtom_itb
moritzey
celtic
rosy itb
n mck
crashthesystem


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Please can anyone with a +1 confirm if the person intends to play poker or not if they have not already done so.

No, but I'm a great fan of Bayern Munich if that helps.

Paul Barnes

Are AIP in anyway related to the Cobra Group?

By the way, Star Wars owns Star Trek!

Good point. I'm finished here. I'm happy to take any further queries on ceo@allinpoker.com.

Regards to all,
Paul

This whole thread is becoming quite cringe worthy, with accusations from one to another, and to be honest it’s not what I normally expect to see on this forum. Looks to me that something personal is going on and if it is then shouldn’t this be argument be best sorted out by Private messages?

[AND]

Hi,

again, this is incorrect and you are misinforming. All In Poker takes care of our performing players. Let me explain. The 51% of net revenues is allocated to the player commission fund, distributed on the basis of individual player performance in terms of their referrals and their own play (not rake-back - raked hands). Not all commission is earned because not all targets are met (not everyone plays 750 AIP raked hands per month - the latter comprising of 9 AIP raked hands for every $1 paid in tournament fees, plus raked hands from cash games to whose pot the player has contributed). The difference between the 51% of corporate net revenues allocated to be paid to the players (not rake-back) and that actually earned is called the breakage. This breakage is used to pay cash bonuses to players. All In Poker decides who gets the bonuses (not rake-back). The 51% of net revenues always goes to the players. People who neither refer nor play will be last in line for bonuses. I think that makes sense. What would you prefer, 35% of your own rake or 51% of a revenue fund generated by 10's, 100's or in some cases 1000's of players in your downline? Work out what 51% of PartyPoker's net revenues are and compare that to 35% on a rake-back deal? You know, All In Poker is new and innovative and gives a great opportunity to all of you who have found yourself in the midst of the poker revolution, and recognise the opportunity. You play poker, you know people who play poker, so why not use this asset to earn extra income? That's what All In Poker is all about.

Thanks,
Paul

for me it's quite simple, if i play on betholdem (another prima skin) i will get ( i think) 35% rakeback when i play.
I do the same on allin i get err, nothing. You can say it's my fault for not getting Pokergirl1 in my downline but the truth is  i can guarantee X amount from elsewhere, where is my incentive?
I don't care if it's a pyramid scheme or not, it is irrelevant the point is it is not profitable unless i happen to get people who are prepared to bet a shed load of cash AND i have to play a shed load of raked hands on top.

One is a major European professional poker player, very well known. Another is a poker business professional in the poker player's downline. The latter earns more commission (not "rake back") than the former because he is damn good at what he does, has seen the value of the proposition, grasped it, and runs with it.

I can prove to you via people that you know of personally, Ironside,

are you saying people i have met once or twice at a poker table or people i got out for dinner with on a regualr basis

cause people i have met over a poker table are not the best character witnesses as i am trying to steal from them and they me all the time
as for people i go out to dinner with regularly none of them would know the difference between 74o and AA

Lots of people "stand by" what they say, even to the bitter end. See Tony Blair and Iraq for example. Sure, "if you are lucky enough to get a big hitter in your downline then you can make good money" -  yes - that's the whole point! So, why did you refer 10 duds to your downline? What we advertise is that we "always give back 51% of the net revenues to the players". We always do this. Always. Always. Always. I have nothing more to add.

i stand by my statement that the people making the most money out of this are those at the top of the chain

the statement in your adertising of giving players back 51% of the rake is missleading

if you are lucky enough to get a big hitter in your downline then you can make good money

but the people that are making the real money are the top 2 or 3 players in the PRYAMID

You seem to have completely misunderstood the All In Poker rewards program. All In Poker is not a rake-back site, and never was. If you really want to understand how the commission program works then please invest 5 minutes in watching the movie on the home page (www.allinpoker.com). If you are interested in learning more then read the Brochure. Your comments below, in particular "if you play alot of poker you dont get anywhere near 51% of your rake back" are completely incorrect. I can prove to you via people that you know of personally, Ironside, that one's position in the downline does not mean that you earn less than someone above you. Now, I can prove this. I can show you the evidence. You cannot prove your statement below, and you shouldn't write such stuff without supporting evidence, or attempt to damage my website based on your prejudice or your blurred vision of pyramids or "chain letters". Watch the movie. Read the brochure. Look at the website. Sit back and think before you write. Let the penny drop. And, if one is not interested in making money from one's poker assets, then just play on the site like any other Prima site.

Paul

ok i will comment on all in poker and the "benifits" of 51% rake back

if you play alot of poker you dont get anywhere near 51% of your rake back
what you get is a share of other people rake if they are in your downline
if nobody in your downline plays you get 0$ in rake back where as the people
at the top of the chain gets paid your rake so
as a matter of fact it works just like a chain letter
the people at the top get rich while we plebs at the bottom get nothing

if that aint a fact then prove me wrong

Hi,

Paul Barnes here.

If your check in your luggage at the airport and watch it going down the conveyor belt towards the airplane, you trust the baggage handlers to to put your bags on the plane. If they don't, you get very upset. Many of our bags fell off, because the conveyor belt wasn't properly set up. We put the bags back on the conveyor belt, as a service to the owner, who had gone to a lot of trouble to pack the bag in the first place. We didn't introduce any new bags, repack any existing bags, change the names or the barcodes, the origin or the destination, the weight, the contents, the colour - nothing. We ensured that the service commitment was fulfilled.

We ensured that the invitations originally penned by the owners got through to the intended recipient. That is all. And, guess what, people are signing up, in the downlines where they should have signed up weeks ago. No message was sent that was not already submitted by the respective author in the first place.

So, don't talk to me about ethics, parasites, pyramids or any other unsubstantiated visions you may have.

This was a once-off service to address complaints about the conveyor belt.

Regards,
Paul

can we have allinpokers' spam reply removed from this thread?

no Adam, there are two questions here

a) DC's name being used on e-mails, which they have promised to investigate

b) the mechanics and ethics of all-in poker. IMHO the CEO is allowed right of reply to issues raised on this thread in that regard

 

But this is worrying....

Just to clarify.

b) all-in poker sent approx 50 emails on 3rd Sept that appeared to be from me. They did this without my permission or knowledge.
c) I have registered my complaints on the subject and have asked that they do not do this again in the future
d) I have received an apology

Was this really the site's doing, or were they duped by an unscrupulous affiliate?

I was contemplating depositing on Prima, probably through AllIn Poker because of the Blonde link, but I don't want to touch any site that would deliberately behave in this kind of unethical manner.

Clarification would be appreciated, Mr. Barnes.

Hello,

I have commissioned detailed reports this morning related to invitations and reminders from All In Poker associated with people mentioned on this forum.

No one has received an Invitation Reminder from All In Poker that was not originally sent by the respective registered member of All In Poker.

What has happened is that some people have now received a Reminder for an Invitation that originally may have been sent up to 5 months ago (when we were still in pre-launch BETA Testing with a small select group of people). In some cases the author/sender may have forgotten they sent it - and the recipient may not have had any contact with the sender for several months - hence it looks like Spam or a hack. Neither is the case.

The most likely reason that the original invitation was not received is because it ended up in a junk filter. The most likely reason for this is that at that time All In Poker was not a Bonded Sender (you must be live for 90 days to be a Bonded Sender). We are now live for 90 days and are now a Bonded Sender.

We have received requests from some of our top affiliates, many of whom have sent many invitations to friends, colleagues and business partners, to resend their invitations for them as a service (there is no mass resend tool in All In Poker). We have also received many complaints related to people who had been sent invitations but had not received them.

Yesterday (Friday) we sent out Reminders including those that we considered might never have reached their intended recipient because we were not Bonded at the time. This was a once-off exercise related to the Bonding Certification, and it has now happily resulted in sign-ups for some of those people, which is of course the intended result. All reminders were sent exactly as they were originally sent by the author - in exactly the same format using exactly the same words and exactly the same recipient email information as the original invitation.

I accept that we should have known that this might cause confusion with sender and/or recipient in some cases. And it has, for which I apologise to Dave Colclough.

Please remember, All In Poker is all about relationships marketing - i.e. marketing to people with whom you have a relationship. That is how we can afford to give 51% of the net revenues back to our players - because we don't spend this cash on marketing. You send invites to your friends, acquaintances and business partners, period.

All Invitations come with an Unsubscribe link, and no Invitations, which had previously been rejected using this link, were resent.

Regards,
Paul Barnes
ceo@allinpoker.com

I actually like the all-in poker idea. The bottom line is that they give 51% of the rake back to the punters. No other Prima site matches this. So it is clearly the most favourable to play on.

However, I am upset that someone has used my name.

Further moreso, I am devasted by the fact they appear to have broken into my email account to do so. I am getting failed to send messages back in my bigfoot Inbox. this indicates to me, that the culprit has managed to use my bigfoot email address to send the Invitations. I personally see this as Fraud. Has anyone got any idea how this is possible? If so, could they PM me?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't - if someone is making wild statements about my company I feel I should explain exactly what we do and open up via my email address to take any further questions. Also, I know Dave Colclough and Tony Kendall, both of whom I respect greatly, and if someone is really using Dave's name, then I regard it as important to go in and take a strong position.

BTW: I 'm impressed too - I just checked out your site by clicking on the advertisement for it at the bottom of your post. Not bad.

Paul

What a cracking reply.  A nice full advert for the company and a "We'll look into it".

 

I'm impressed.

Hi, one of the ways we facilitate our members to refer their friends to the site is via an Invitations Page. This allows you to enter free format text and send an email invite to your friend with a link embedded in the email, taking the recipient to a registration page. The system sends the email using the email address entered in the registration profile of the sender. Obviously people can change their own profile and give themselves any name they want. I have set the investigation in motion but we need to examine the invitations database, which, I hope you understand, is difficult to do at 10pm Friday night. But we'll find out where it came from. I guess with many thousands of users this can happen. Paul

I skipped part (i) as I wasn't particularly interested, but part (ii) seems to skip the issue of signing off as Dave Colclough - I think that's the issue we are most interested in. Your comments would be appreciated

Hi all,

Paul Barnes here, CEO of All In Poker.

I have been alerted to this thread by one of our biggest affiliates. Let me please say a few things here:

(i) if you send me (ceo@allinpoker.com) the "regular email invitation from All In poker to what ammounts to a pyramid scheme" I will personally investigate. There is no pyramid scheme at All In Poker. A pyramid scheme is one where you pay a fee to join, and where the benefits to a few come primarily from the fees paid to join. All In Poker is a multi-level commission program, unique in the poker business, and ideally suited to poker players who tend to be worth more than they know and whose worth is not honoured or recognised by the vast majority of sites on which they play. All In Poker is a site for players and affiliates. Given every member is automatically an affiliate who earns from their downline but pays nothing to join, how on earth could it possibly be a pyramid scheme?

Let me explain how the All In Poker Rewards Program (ARP) work:

All In Poker is not a rake-back site – it’s better, because when you refer players to your downline you get paid commission on 51% of the net revenues generated by all players on your first 7 Levels (up to 97,655 players in total).

On Levels 1, 2 & 3 you get paid 10%. On Levels 4, 5 & 6 you get paid 15%. On Level 7, the most populated, you get 25 %. If you add all these percentages up (10,10,10,15,15,15,25) it comes to 100% of the 51% allocated for commission within your downline.

We give every player 25% of their commission (i.e. 25% of the 51%) whether they play or not.

If you play 750 AIP raked hands per month or become a Super Affiliate then you earn 100% of your commission (i.e. 100% of the 51%). If you play less than 750 AIP raked hands then the commission is calculated pro-rata.

Any unearned commission goes to the Breakage and is distributed amongst the members in the form of Freeroll tournaments and cash bonuses.

You earn commission on all players in the first 7 Levels of your downline even it they were not directly referred by you. You always earn commission on Direct Referrals even if your downline is full. If you run out of slots for Direct Referrals then All In Poker allocates a new leg on your Level 1.

The beauty of this program is in its simplicity - you only have to refer between one to five good players to your Level 1 and you can already build a cash generating downline.

All players are automatically cash bonus earning affiliates at All In Poker.

(ii) I have alerted my Operations Manager tonight to investigate this email issue. I'll keep my breadth to cool my porridge here but not only is All In Poker Bonder by Bonder Sender Program, but exclude Spam specifically in the T's & C's.

I'll post back and let you know what we found. In the meantime email me with any questions to ceo@allinpoker.com.

Thanks,
Paul

amongst the spam I get, there's regular email invitation from All In poker to what ammounts to a pyramid scheme. I've rejected future invitations but still they come. todays invitation was marked 'from Dave Colclough'
Does El Blondie know his name is being used on the bottom of this spam?