rip, daly , patrick and laz, a big man , a big personality and an guy who could light the room up and crease you with laughter

Anyone else surprised by Bayern Munich in 4th and the lack of Old Firm clubs?

not hugely suprised - bayern are built on rock solid foundations and have a large core market with plenty of tv money, even in bad times they still figure well

as for celtic and rangers also not a big suprise - lack of champions league money for celtic and lack of league win means revenue and turnover are down. Financially sound but not in the rich list way.
rangers are in abject misery with large debts of approx 31 million , even with cl money and league money all its doing is feeding the debt.
gone are the days when celtic or rangers will figure in the top 20 money lists
dont have the tv money of the sky premiership and despite their size are big hitters in a very small financial pond and country..

i`d like to see that list if debt and outstanding transfers payments were factored in and deducted from these figures,
would be a very different list i`d guess

in the correct environment they can be good.
problem is they are usually played by someone who has all the finesse of a cow humping a hamster.

Ok guys - my mate wants his stag do in the Scottish Highlands, near Fort william - so we can do some outdoor adventure stuff.

I have no problem with that.................... oh wait - except that there is no where to drink

so I have a few questions:

1. What is fort william like for a night out - if it is any good will 20 English blokes get beaten up by locals
pretty few options grog and gruel or a couple of other boozers...its alright but not glasgow that for sure - not likely to gte beaten up...i`d be more worried about getting snowed in of late.
as for outdoors stuff depending on what he counts as outdoors you could still base it out of glasgow as there are mountains an hour away you could do. i`d do a weekend in glasgow with an early rise on the saturday for  few hills and then back to town for some pillaging

2. How far away (minibus drive) is Fort William from Glasgow?
glasgow is 2 half hours or in daytime a train journey thats pretty good.
wesy highland way is a decent booze trip in between scenery, did it over 5 days and 20 pubs a few years ago but its become the trendy walk now. you can stay in wigwams , hotels, hostels , luxury lodges or rough it.


3. You get my line of thinking - any other ideas?

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Though I do think the bit at the end with Hammond's car rolling down the dune spoiled it. Why do they feel the need to do this sort of nonsense :/

yep
kinda pissed me of as well, just let the drive and the cars do the talking
although for me the genuine fear in mays eyes coupled with his genuine anger at clarkson on rear ending him made me smile.

seems to me that the uk government is bi polar.

 issues plea for clemency on the grounds that the guy had a a medical condition and may not have been aware of teh full implications of what he did

at same time refusing plea on medical grounds by mkinnons extradition to a us federal penetentiary based on the fact that he was trying to cause damage and was not aware of the implications of what he did

no wonder the chinese dont get us -we are so inconsistent.

that aside the chinese have laws -he broke em - our opinion is irrelevent.

from national express, always sticks in my mind

well its hard to get by when your arse is the size of a small countreee.

and to make it rhyme as well....

i thought you had just discovered a new country and western star with that thread title

watched higgins recently blow a last frame when he had several chances to put it away -it will be in his mind, was in glasgow i think

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i have not argued with the fact that to date with the exception of the discredited author that there are no studies that show a link.
I only point out that there was and remains unease at grass roots level over mmr and not just from parents.

that however does not convince me that there will never be a study that shows a link - i dont doubt that there are studies ongoing at present in various forms and scope of investigations -  and to that end as john states there should always be a choice -

that is what i find troubling  - for whatever reason financial,policy or supply no option has been offered by government..its a one choice field...


 

there is a unspoken(except in private) feeling amongst a lot of her doctors that there may well be a link but they cannot voice their concern as there is at present no real large study that has found a link

Doctors putting 'feelings' ahead of 'evidence' - WTF are they teaching at medical school these days?

Andrew...shame on you sir for the sarcasm....i believ some of the best research and diagnosis can be based on a hunch or feeling intially..and i believe is the first rule of medicine is first do no harm

what i believe i was trying to impart is that there are  a few doctors who having seen pre and post mmr babies/kids are uncomfortable with the position at present that there is no link(but voicing it seems to be a dangerous route). if that is at a local level what is the national position
the fact(and i acknowledge on the basis of study to date) that there seems to be no link does not make it 100% there is not...facts change over time.....as does medicine and medical fact

i would hate to be in the position similar to thalidomide was it? where it was safe - no problem - until it wasn't

so i believe what i am saying is surely there is room for choice for parents until we have had a wide spread wide ranging study into mmr. 
i would not be of a mind to say hey ho hindsight is a wonderful thing if my or another child was to end up with aspergers or serious autism for the want of a choice and and exhaustive study.

open minded i am both ways but i believe in choice

now i`m at work  so need to be on here sparingly so will return

having dropped of the planet with a 15 month old tank i am oh so thankful for teacake in pointing me back here.

great read and from the mind of a guys more grounded than most

i am in such a quandry at the moment. and in a difficult position as well.
my daughter is due the mmr soon and i have major reservations on it  on several fronts
1st is the autism link  - we have family experience of post mmr autism that was very close to the jab and therefore diccicult to rule out mmr as a cause
secondly i have a wife who works in the community(nursing) and who has also got reservations on it - as a last position she will have my daighter vacinnated but that is on the grounds that she will not tolerate the chances of catching measles as she has seen what effect it can have on young kids
BUT
there is a unspoken(except in private) feeling amongst a lot of her doctors that there may well be a link but they cannot voice their concern as there is at present no real large study that has found a link - and the intial publisher has been targetted for report. so no doctor will say what they may feel  - that they would like parents to have a choice.

in summing i am so annoyed that for whatever reason there is no alternative(i do not know whether this is by deliberate design or genuine supply issues)

it seems choice is not a choice, which is sad when you consider that you only get one chance to get it right and the though of having to take the risk when there could be a choice for me is fairly bitter and unpalatable to have to make.

I am very much looking forward to the oportunity to play at DTD. the opportunity to play poker in a designated safe enviroment where my need is catered specifically for is one i very much appreciate.
i believe that this club which will be run responsibly and openly will assist in moving poker into the modern day enviroment.
I also prefer to play in an enviroment where i am not distracted by the noise and unneccessary(for me)balckjack and roulette.
I do not believe my needs are accomodated withtin the current availability and look forward to my and many other people requitrements being met with this new club

pat mccrory
lanarkshire

how is it that the blonde small stakes tournies only got around 20 people but these freerolls are gonna get close to 100 people entering. Are people that keen to do their best to get something for nothing?

totalise for some insight...i rarely for whatever reason get to play poker live or online at present ..5 month old and busy busy at work. Thus my poker is rustier than tikays student card..so a freeroll is a good way , especially when known in advance, to get some poker in without real penalty...winning it is not really in the equation..playing is.
i have blonde poker , i wil down load dtd software soon but playing is difficult at this time.

so come on dont be so suspicious china