1lb a day is an absurd rate of weight loss. How many calories do you consume daily? How many grams protein/carbs/fat?
To Patonious, I'll leave it to you to work out how many calories and grams of protein, carbs and fat are in a couple of pints of fresh vegetable juice which includes fresh ginger and turmeric. All I can tell you is that this absurd weight loss brought me, and has brought many others back from the brink in a very short time.
Go tell Joe Cross that he's absurd. Tell the people who have swerved debilitating prescription drugs.
You strike me as a man with a point of view and It would be interesting if you could enlighten me as to why losing a pound a day (for as long as the body is willing to lose it) is absurd.
Is it as absurd as having a gastric band fitted? Or as absurd as deciding that we are all going to hell in a bucket so let's eat another dozen doughnuts and a family sized tub of Ice Cream.? Is it as absurd as doctors prescribing statins to every mug and his missus regardless of the side effect; which is early onset dementia? Is it as absurd in us living in a prescription drug driven culture where doctors have five minutes with a patient? just enough time to prescribe the fashionable drug of the moment? -
Many of the drugs prescribed ten years ago are now regarded as not remotely what they were purported to be. Will this not be the case in ten years time for many of the drugs being prescribed today?
This is the dictionary definition of absurd - just in case you used the wrong word in error.
absurd (b-sûrd, -zûrd)
adj.
1. Ridiculously incongruous or unreasonable. See Synonyms at foolish.
2. Of, relating to, or manifesting the view that there is no order or value in human life or in the universe.
3. Of or relating to absurdism or the absurd.
I don't think I'm being ridiculous, I don't think I'm incongruous, I don't think I'm being unreasonable. I think that the idea of eating fresh, live, micro nutrients in tangible quantities is of value to human life.
Enlighten Me, Sid Harris
Sorry if I came across as dismissive. You seem to have had great success with this diet and sound happy with the results. My tone is directed more at the fact that you are recommending this diet without alluding to any of the basics of weight loss. Certainly if you are not familiar with counting calories or macronutirents then you are not cut out to be writing a book on the subject of weight loss. I am not a medical professional but I know that there is a healthy and an unhealthy way to lose weight. For example, when you eat in such a large caloric deficit without monitoring your fat and protein intake there is a good chance that you are deficient in one or both of these things. If you want to lose any muscle you have or have messed up hormone production whilst dieting then eating in a huge caloric deficit without monitoring protein/fat intake is a good way to go about it.
What I should acknowledge though is that some morbidly obese individuals are in need of rapid and extreme weight loss and this sort of diet may well be a good way to go. This is only in individuals who have a life threatening weight crisis. It is not advisable to embark on such a diet without at least consulting some sort of medical professional or educating yourself on the basics of weight loss beforehand. All other individuals would be better served to lose weight in a more sensible and controlled manner which I'l try and outline below.
The basics of weight loss;
There are 3 things you should know before you start any sort of diet;
1. Your BMR or Basal Metabolic Rate (how many calories you'd burn daily if you sat in bed all day)
2. Your TDEE or Total Daily Energy Expenditure (your actual daily calorie expenditure)
3. 3500 calories = 1lb fat.
To lose 1lb of fat a day your weekly caloric deficit would have to be 3500*7 = 24500kcal.
My BMR is 1830kcal and my TDEE is around 2800kcal (this has to be an estimate as activity levels will fluctuate, you can find this out simply by googling tdee and inputing your height/weight/age etc.)
In order to be in a 24500 calorie deficit I would have to eat nothing for just under 9 days (2800*9 =25200). This sounds ridiculous, and it is. It is possible to lose 1lb a day but what you are losing is lean body mass (muscle) as well as fat. This is due to a low protein intake. Now, that's fine because not everyone wants to lift weights and have big muscles but what I've pointed out is that it is impossible to lose weight this quickly without losing a decent amount of muscle. Whether you are bothered about that is a personal decision.
If you are bothered about this you would want to
lose no more than 2lb a week in order to keep your protein intake high enough to maintain muscle. A widely accepted protein intake (no citation use google or ask any doctor/pt) for losing weight whilst maintaing muscle is around .8 - 1g protein/lb bodyweight.
For fats it's advisable to go no less that around .4g/lb bodyweight. Fats are essential for hormone production/joint repair/skin/nails/hair and so on.
Carbs are not essential in the way that protein/fats are but most people would go nuts and feel very lethargic without them. I'd advise people to work out their protein/fat requirement and fill the rest with good sources of carbohydrate. 'Good' sources come from wholegrain sources and fruit which contain plenty of fibre and essential micronutrients/vitamins.
So using myself as an example in order to lose 2lb/week I'd have to be eating in a deficit of 1000 calories per day (1000*7 = 7000, 7000/3500 =2). TDEE - 1000 = 1800kcal. I'm 12st 5 (173lbs) so going by the guidelines set out above I'd be looking to eat around 170g protein per day and 70g fat.
carbs 1g= 4 cal
protein 1g= 4 cal
fat 1g= 9 cal
So my calories from protein would be 170*4= 680
calories from fat would be 70*9 = 630
680+630 = 1310. 1800 - 1310 = 490
This leaves us with 490 'spare' calories that we can use for carbs. 490/4 = 122g carb
Our overall daily macronutrient plan for an 1800 calorie diet would therefore be - 170g protein/122g carbs/70g fats.
- This is a very simple explanation of how calorie consumption works and how a diet should be designed, in my opinion.
I'm very happy for you having lost all that weight. If more people were as health conscious as you then regardless of how they go about it they would probably lead a healthier and longer life. What I have a problem with is people recommending diets when they don't explain why and how it works. Yes it works because you are eating only fruit and veg and eating in a huge caloric deficit. I could eat 3 big macs a day and lose weight but that wouldn't make it a good diet.
All that said, I think the juicer concept is interesting and probably a good way to get some essential micronutrients in to the system. What is your favourite/number one concoction?