thanks for the replys. I have been calling here with the range that you have said tank. However i sometimes lob away crappy little aces or 22-55. Can i ask if you had 4500 chips at the start of this hand would your range increase or decrease?

I've started to multi table the $15 turbos on stars . Just wondering what ranges of hands people would be calling with in a spot like this.

PokerStars Game #5067099174: Tournament #25451425, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/05/27 - 09:34:37 (ET)
Table '25451425 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button

Seat 1: scheleronny (1590 in chips)
Seat 2: notringopaul (1030 in chips)
Seat 3: Bertmobile (2595 in chips)
Seat 5: cavendish66 (1990 in chips)
Seat 9: Drchan87 (6295 in chips)
notringopaul: posts small blind 100
Bertmobile: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bertmobile [x x]
cavendish66: folds
Drchan87: folds
scheleronny: folds
notringopaul: raises 830 to 1030 and is all-in

So what would be called in a spot like this?

Also opponent is typical run of the mill player not overly tight and aggressive.

In reply to Arison, I think that min bet move either does show major weakness or major strength but with a board like that would you be min betting a made straight or a set.

If he has nothing what would be the point in reraising all in. At this moment in time he has 2million chips and is still in a very strong position to go on and win the tourney. If he loses hes down to 1.2million in chips which would put him below the average and 8 people still to go. To reraise someone all in that has already shown pre-flop strength at a tight table, he would then be reraising the flop bet of someone who has said i have a big hand im willing to play for chips and take it down.


that probably doesnt make any sense little tired!

I posted my response before reading anyone elses but now I have I am amazed how many of you will still fall for a weak lead- this bet is common in big tournaments and you had all better learn to stop reraising flops like this. If a good player flops a monster he regularly leads out begging for a reraise, I'm not saying this was the case in this hand but if you gonna reraise here after a small probe looking bet you going to be left with lots of tricky decisions. What if you reraise the flop and I go allin? Obviously I have the monster and have duped you into reraising ( or do I have rags and am just pretending i ran a weak lead into you?). Calling is not always a weak play and is certainly for me the correct play at this stage of the tournament.

Do you not think that at this stage of the tournament that the SB would be willing to just flat call with so called monster hands out of position. Wouldnt a reraise be likely from AA-QQ maybe JJ aswell along with AK and AQ. The only hands that he could be leading out with are K10/99 but even with a set/two pair on this flop wouldnt you bet more to protect your hand from a potential flush or straight draw. I just cant see how anyone would want to milk anything from this flop unless they had the stone cold nuts. He has a big stack why potentially risk getting outdrawn and going from relative chip saftey to being right back in the pack.

What do you do if you just call the flop bet and you then face a 250k bet on the turn?


But i have never been in such a final table situation with such sums on offer so i could be talking utter nonsense

I agree with IFM that the reraise the flop with your hand is the correct decision.

With you flat calling on the flop i think you are either saying i have a 10, a flush draw or an AK that hasnt hit. IMO with a board that scary any hand that has hit that flop will be reraising to get rid of straight/flush draws.

I think if i were to play the hand then i would probably reraise the flop to find out where i was maybe to 280-300k then if called check the turn.

I think your reraise on the turn was perhaps on the low side as its only another 180k into a 880k pot( i think if my adding up is ok). If you had been betting into someone with an average stack then this raise could have worked as you are putting their tourney lives at stake. I think the turn raise of that size into Mr CallerMcallerson with a 2.2million stack hes going to be callling with any part of that board.

I think on the river check has to be the right option, unless you have some seriously large bollcoks and pushing it all in.


Congrats on the result!!

Sorry for the long time to reply. I decided to pass because i honestly had no idea where i was in the hand. I think my major mistake was that i didnt raise ali after he had first bet.


After i folded i showed the Ace and said i was giving Mickey too much credit hoping to get some info out of him. He told me that he had Ace 10 but was/still am a little dubious about that. I think he either had the 8 and recognised that i had the ace due to calling Ali or he had none of it and thought he could get me to lay my hand down (which he could).

The most annoying thing about this hand is that i have never given so much thought to any hand i have ever played and changed my opinion on it so much.

Sorry forgot to put that Ali mucked quickly.

Hi there long time lurker here and i played in yesterdays 300pl freezeout in blackpool. This is the first time i've played in a comp of this buy in against good players. Had an interesting hands which i'm not sure if i played well or not.

I've just been moved to a new table which has notable famous faces on it Ali Mallu, Micky Wernick and the nugget Jones. I have been there for about 15mins and taken my stack from 10k to 15k. Blinds are 300-600

Che Hand

 I have  in the SB i have 15000 chips. Its folded around to the button who is Ali Mallu (stack of about 22,000)  who has been crazy agressive since i got there he flat calls, i make up micky wernick (stack of about 8,000) checks in the BB.

Flop comes down   

I quite liked this flop and i decided to check as Mallu was not allowing any flops to get checked around, Micky Checked and Ali bet out 800. This is where i need help. I decided to flat call thinking i could get him to hang himself on the later streets. However Mickey raised another 2000.

Edit Ali quickly folded decision was back to me

Whats the right play from here? Also since i had been at the table this is the first time that i had seen him enter a pot

Shame it's not on Channel 990.

Nope because you would then be butt asss naked