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136  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: strange line taken, how do you like it? on: April 11, 2011, 04:06:45 PM
thx dude lol im super lazy with my grammar especially when I've had no slp :p
137  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / line on: April 11, 2011, 11:27:39 AM
I would 3bet this sometimes, but probs at a very low percentage against ppl who have high F3betFreq, 3betting pre vs this type of villian is a mistake as hes defending 59o which leads me to think hes defending 85%+ of his range which would put us in alota tough spots in a bloated pot OoP with minimal showdown value. But as played I would bet the flop probs abit bigger as my standard to about 5.50(balanced and also easier to get stacks in) or maybe even bet the pot since he looks like a huge fish(calling pre with 59, im sure you've noticed he's been defending super wide) His minraise on the flop is probs 9x most of the time trying to "see where hes at" Qx, straight draws and air usually raise bigger which is usually the case for bad players as they have terrible bet sizing tells, so I actually like the sizing of your RR on the flop as hes gna continue with near 90% + of his range now, might even be 100% if hes super bad. So now looking at an Ace turn given his range I'd just bet a decent size again most of the time but you can still C/R AI/ C/c All options pretty viable depending on what YOU feel his hand range is weighted more towards; more bluffs? then c/c, More 9x and draws? bet again. Ax? C/r AI! Don't like your logic in betting super tiny with the plan of shoving river as you said betting big on the turn looks strong! You dont think shoving river looks strong? You're probs gna say"but hes bad" But if hes bad, you think betting strong on the turn is going to make a difference? You also said u didnt want him checking behind. The only hands a bad player is going to check behind there is probs 33-88 and 9x but probs turn 33-88 into a bluff using the ace as a scarecard as you've shown weakness checking once the ACE hit.  So yeh, if i c/c turn im gna c/s river, if I bet turn I shove river. Ofc against a decent/gd player I'd play this completely different, but vs a fish its more down to the game flow and your reads on his tendencies to pick the right line.

More blabbing from me, hope it helped again Smiley
138  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: Turn line to get max value? on: April 09, 2011, 11:11:01 PM
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139  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: Turn line to get max value? on: April 09, 2011, 05:16:26 PM
I think we should obv analyse his range first before coming into any conclusions. what value hands does he have?  55/66/45/78/37/6x/77-AA and given his line the only ones i can see him playing this way are: 6x and 88-99 reason for this being most bad players are gna raise their strong value hands in a 3bet pot just to try and stack the "over pair"
You've also gta remember that u've c/f a super high% of turns in 3bet pots, and obv if its a high % then im sure you're oppenent has caught onto that. Therefore hes not gna expect you to be bluffing turn cards often at all which gives him no reason to slowplay expecting you to bluff, he'd rather just try and get all the money in now hoping you have a strong hand. Which leads me to think most of his range is heavily weight towards air and some draws, but expecting him to raise his draws on the flop a decent% of the time in a 3bet pot. Given that, i dont mind calling hoping either he hits his draw (even though i think a draw is the lower% part of his range) which all the money will go in anyways, and if hes bluffing he cant call a shove but might shove if we check. Or we could call and go for the cheeky mini fake blocker bet on the river of like $2 on diamond or spade river cards and hope for him to spaz with his air. Reason for this being we look like we're scared of the flush and want a cheap showdown, which will induce a shove a high% of time vs a bad/v avg player. Most ppl psychologically just wont wna fold to this min bet esp on "good" river bluffing cards so therefore elect for a raise. Only downside to this is that he will call in which we will lose value when he does have marginal showdown hands, but looking at his range he just doesnt have enough combinations of hands that fit into that category.

Hope this helped Smiley p.s just woke up so if I confused anyone/my grammar is bad excuse me :p
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