It seems fair that chipprince should get paid first as everyone else has had their share of that money.

Also agree that Robert should be paid first too, if someone can get in touch with him and he can sort out the age verification issues.

Agreed

sre we going to run a friendly league this season?

Ready when you are...

I'm not gonna flame man, I think the plan to end it now and work out how much you owe is best right now though. I'm sure you'll pay us back when you can.

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Very sorry to hear this.

Welcome back!

Ta Rod!

Congrats to you both and good luck.

He's been sacked 20 times already...

'They're doing something different so must be on drugs' doesn't hold water.

I agree, but the argument that they're doing something different therefore that it's less likely that they're on drugs doesn't hold water either.

That Johnson and Bolt found very different techniques to best use different physiques to run faster than their rivals seems reasonable. It doesn't make it any less reasonable to be suspicious of such incredible performances.

It's the performances themselves which raise suspicion, which is the greatest shame.

I don't think so - do you honestly believe that you think there is the same likelihood of Usain Bolt being on drugs than you thought there was of Ben 'looks like a condom full of walnuts and eyes out on stalks' Johnson being on drugs?

I've not said that I think Bolt is on drugs, just that it is impossible to be sure that he is not. I sincerely hope that he is not. I'm saying that the sport is rendered meaningless to me now because so many athletes have been proven to be cheats after winning gold medals and breaking records. It's impossible to tell how many, or which, athletes have got away with it.

I was 15 when I watched Ben Johnson's performance in 1988, I did not suspect a thing, I was in awe. I felt betrayed and angry when the news of his positive test broke. I'm not so naive nowadays, I can't watch athletics without a nagging doubt.

'They're doing something different so must be on drugs' doesn't hold water.

I agree, but the argument that they're doing something different therefore that it's less likely that they're on drugs doesn't hold water either.

That Johnson and Bolt found very different techniques to best use different physiques to run faster than their rivals seems reasonable. It doesn't make it any less reasonable to be suspicious of such incredible performances.

It's the performances themselves which raise suspicion, which is the greatest shame.

I think that it's pretty easy to identify certain athletes as dodgy and, equally, others are being legitimate because there is some other, obvious, reason for their great performances.

It's only relatively recently that many East African athletes (who are born with an advantage in long-distance running) were exposed to Western standards of nutrition and training, which has enabled them to fulfill their true potential. Michael Johnson and Usain Bolt have a totally different build and much more efficient running style than other runners.

Other records being broken are only slightly better than those before, which you will get as nutrition and training methods get better.

Rare logic failure MrT.

laborate?

When someone with a slightly different build and technique from the established norm for a successful sprinter starts tearing chunks off world records then it makes me more suspicious not less.

It's the very simplest of sports, if the way Bolt or Johnson runs is the fastest way there would many others running like they do.

I used to love the sport, but I can't watch it now. The cynic in me taints the experience of watching great performances, the greater the performance the more cynical I become.

Hugs and best wishes.

I think that it's pretty easy to identify certain athletes as dodgy and, equally, others are being legitimate because there is some other, obvious, reason for their great performances.

It's only relatively recently that many East African athletes (who are born with an advantage in long-distance running) were exposed to Western standards of nutrition and training, which has enabled them to fulfill their true potential. Michael Johnson and Usain Bolt have a totally different build and much more efficient running style than other runners.

Other records being broken are only slightly better than those before, which you will get as nutrition and training methods get better.

Rare logic failure MrT.

The injustice comes the fact that the laws of rugby union are far too complicated and much is down to 'interpretation' there are many grey areas and players push the boundaries of the law every game. This causes a 'get away with what you can' type of mentality which leads to cheating even in areas such as the blood rule where there is much less scope for interpretation.

Richards and Williams have clearly suffered from the RFU trying to approach the problem from the wrong angle. You can't condone their actions but when so many have got away with similar actions for so long it is obvious why they feel hard done by.

Congratulations!