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Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: 2nd day, DTD £500 WSOP Warm up event
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on: June 06, 2012, 02:57:21 PM
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If you call, you are hoping hes got qj or J10 ? (not likely) or the best case scenario a flush draw
More likely is he has AJ /KJ or even a slowed play over pair plus you still have the possibility the opening raiser can re jam
Fold
Cheers, this is what I did but it took me a while and I wasn't happy about it. I knew V1 was going to cbet virtually any board and I intended to check raise but the SB confused me with his shove. Why bother putting in more chips pre flop if you arent going to make hay when you hit the flop? - If the above is your MO in poker then fold pre is your only option
What your suggesting with this comment Guy is that if you call and hit your flop then you have to go " all the way " everytime without taking into account any table action or other factors. (there must be time youve called a raise with something like AJ /A10 etc and after Axx flop the action had led you to believe you are dominated so youve folded ? ) Possibly you may be right to call or jam but with the initial raiser still lurking too my line (rightly or wrongly) would be dwell fold This is a valid point and people definitely do this. However the action on a jack high flop when you have KJ has been a c-bet from a LAG who's prob cbetting this board 100% of the time, and a jam from a tilted guy looking to get it in, hardly the conditions to start thinking about making big laydowns. If you're going to fold given these conditions then you should fold pre-flopFair enough post Andrew but cant agree with your last point as I dont see it as being a totally black and white decision...Id suggested the fold considering all the facts and the 2 players left but then again I may have given too much credibility to the initial raiser behind and his potential shove stack.
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Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: 2nd day, DTD £500 WSOP Warm up event
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on: June 06, 2012, 02:16:44 PM
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If you call, you are hoping hes got qj or J10 ? (not likely) or the best case scenario a flush draw
More likely is he has AJ /KJ or even a slowed play over pair plus you still have the possibility the opening raiser can re jam
Fold
Cheers, this is what I did but it took me a while and I wasn't happy about it. I knew V1 was going to cbet virtually any board and I intended to check raise but the SB confused me with his shove. Why bother putting in more chips pre flop if you arent going to make hay when you hit the flop? - If the above is your MO in poker then fold pre is your only option
What your suggesting with this comment Guy is that if you call and hit your flop then you have to go " all the way " everytime without taking into account any table action or other factors. (there must be time youve called a raise with something like AJ /A10 etc and after Axx flop the action had led you to believe you are dominated so youve folded ? ) Possibly you may be right to call or jam but with the initial raiser still lurking too my line (rightly or wrongly) would be dwell fold
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Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: lying about poker.....
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on: June 06, 2012, 12:06:04 PM
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In my 20 s I would of thought differently and tried to hide the fact , but life experiences have dictated a big shift in mindset. On a similar vein I had issues with girlfriends making ignorant judgements (although they were happy to accept holidays etc on the back of winnings) one actually asked me to choose between poker and her... Needless to say I still play poker  If they know the facts from day one , then they will either accept you or not , in any case eventually the truth will come out and then you will look bad for witholding information.
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Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Euro 2012 betting thread
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on: June 05, 2012, 02:27:04 PM
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Already posted this on Tips for Tikay Quite like this bet if you can get 7-4 with Stan James or Betfair Croatia to qualify from Group C . Croatia have lost their star striker Olic but still have plenty of fire power up front with Evertons Jelavic ,Mandzukic and Eduardo ,The creative Modric bossing things in midfield a sturdy defence ,a great team spirit and an astute manager in Slaven Bilic. There are 2 places out of 4 available in the group so as I dont see Ireland as a danger ,and with Spain likely to qualify (not certainties ) I see it as a straight fight for second between Croatia and an average Italian team whose squad and management have been affected by match fixing scandals and dont appear for up for a fight when things are going against them. http://www.oddschecker.com/football/internationals/euro-2012/euro-2012-group-c/to-qualify
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Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Tips for Tikay
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on: June 05, 2012, 01:26:06 PM
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Quite like this bet if you can get 7-4 with Stan James or Betfair Croatia to qualify from Group C . Croatia have lost their star striker Olic but still have plenty of fire power up front with Evertons Jelavic ,Mandzukic and Eduardo ,The creative Modric bossing things in midfield a sturdy defence ,a great team spirit and an astute manager in Slaven Bilic. There are 2 places out of 4 available in the group so as I dont see Ireland as a danger ,and with Spain likely to qualify (not certainties ) I see it as a straight fight for second between Croatia and an average Italian team whose squad and management have been affected by match fixing scandals and dont appear for up for a fight when things are going against them. I recomend £80 at 7-4 http://www.oddschecker.com/football/internationals/euro-2012/euro-2012-group-c/to-qualify
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