No 2 Was the rock a meteor that hit him on the head?
     5 The man was his pilot?
     7 She was hungry?
     9 Surfing Ebay?
   15 Is he a deep sea diver?

Okay you guys have convinced me as I would like to improve on my cash game. So what is the best book to learn odds? Harrington 1? What on earth is reverse implied odds?

Oh I see    ...btw im the third one on the left

OOOPS Sorry tikey, I thought it was quite funny 

Thought you guys would appreciate this one 

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Good point Ironside  Okay I read TightEnds and Dans posts about six times and I think I have sussed out the how the odds work now ie on the flush draw. Would the possiblity of hitting AK not be counted as an out then? The flop mentioned is not a good one so you would have to think what has this guy got..88, 44, 22 or 2 pair, he may also be a fish and drawing for a flush too or bluffing if he is low stacked. Also position of the caller would make a big difference, if the guy is BB he possibly got lucky with 84 82, if he has bought into the pot preflop then you got to put him on over pair, A+. If he has A+ I have him beat/drawn so flush apart I would be likely to play the AK and hope for a catch with the flush as a bonus. The odds would suggest this is not a good hand to play but I probably would. So who else would play it??

AWWWWW ((((((tikey))))) ya wee darlin, thats what i do now...I enjoy it and take the bad beats and smile (not). I enjoy convos like this where opinions are discussed and thank you Ian for teaching me right from wrong ;-)

I know you r not having a pop..im actually interested but was kinda put off the game after reading SS1 and i lost a bomb so decided to play my own game. That hand would obviously be a gamble as ur man next door has AA and 60% is only a slightly better odds, but i would be inclined to play it anyway just for the thrill coz isnt that what is all about?

Yes i would..but then im a fish...im thinking 9 or club so yes i would risk it...would that be wrong? what r the stats?

No idea....with A 6 3 i would put a feeler bet and sit on it and probably still get stung...6 2 9 i would go for it and probably get done on 2 pair its like i said i can see where odds would help but i feel IMO gut instinct is more important...btw its probably why i loose a lot hahaha

I see what you are saying Baron but low stacked with JJ and going all in, guy calls with AK...who has the better odds?? Im guessing me with JJ but his AK might hit so your odds dont mean nowt in that situation its just bingo and crossing fingers

Oh yes I have been caught out many a time on that one where the bluffer hits a hand when i go all in...doooh. I still think the stats dont really count in some games...btw im talking stt/mtt i agree in rng the odds will win at the end of the day thats why i dont do so good on them lol. Kids have now got girt big L R painted to the bottom of their shoes tikey so no problem there now. LMAO

Yes i know what your saying..but..IMO (and i know im going to get grief for this) reading the players is more important. Okay i dont know how to work the stats and would not raise a hand without reasonable cards with various outs but is it really important to have the best odds??

Okay maybe knowing percentages will help but in reality if you have an allin bluffer and ur pretty sure u got him just coz he calls everything and you think you got the edge...then what??

I dont know how to do percentages but i suppose you get a gut feeling after a while and know when to chance your luck