As played sigh fold, A4,A5 prob has alot here. Probably bet/fold turn bit better then checking

Massive overpot bet 8.25 + surely a bit smaller will get called more often and can still be good?

I would personally make like 6.50 20ish  turn shove river, i imagine we could get away turn if its a bad one played this way

Cold 4 by person IP? (if im reading correctly, tired) , i think its a sigh fold

Everything is stack related and situation dependent in Sngs & Mtt;s , would be a sensible answer

6k, call as played

Only hands im worried about is sets but more likely he has connectors, bigger cards, pretty sure if he was a solid player he would 4b anything better then us. With a good players range here , we should stilll be good enough on the flop readless IMO

Also maybe im not nitty enough but i like the 3b here, if he 4bets tank a bit sigh fold or stick it in

Fold pre

also agree

I dont mind a shove pre either obviously bother better then calling

EZ shove, usually more info needed but so standard we have Aces, hopefully they call us if not thats fine too

Oh right my bad, in that case Check/ Call give them the chance to bluff us. Not folding

22c? or $22 , if cents then just shove

if 22 dollars check/shove

Thanks all, did think it was a bit deep to shove.

Is 4b/f ever bad here of make it 36k? Dissapointed getting stack and makin basic error

Will bare in mind next time im im this spot.

very very very easy all in pre in a tournie like this.  top 200 etc means nothing!

Rubz cheers mate <3

As above ITM in top 200 and then this happens, no reads

PokerStars Hand #86282993510: Tournament #616010003, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (2000/4000) - 2012/09/16 22:17:18 WET [2012/09/16 17:17:18 ET]
Table '616010003 301' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: JoeSakicPL (136368 in chips)
Seat 2: DoffenH (19986 in chips)
Seat 3: all-ingar (55899 in chips)
Seat 4: Rim0777 (138423 in chips)
Seat 5: MAKS_YM5 (86668 in chips)
Seat 6: 73genius73 (71236 in chips)
Seat 7: JohnBevan882 (126205 in chips)
Seat 8: MBMB75 (21233 in chips)
Seat 9: stani111 (44348 in chips)
JoeSakicPL: posts the ante 400
DoffenH: posts the ante 400
all-ingar: posts the ante 400
Rim0777: posts the ante 400
MAKS_YM5: posts the ante 400
73genius73: posts the ante 400
JohnBevan882: posts the ante 400
MBMB75: posts the ante 400
stani111: posts the ante 400
JoeSakicPL: posts small blind 2000
DoffenH: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JohnBevan882 [ As]
all-ingar: folds
Rim0777: folds
MAKS_YM5: folds
73genius73: folds
JohnBevan882: raises 4000 to 8000
MBMB75: folds
stani111: folds
JoeSakicPL: raises 12000 to 20000
DoffenH: folds
JohnBevan882: calls 12000
*** FLOP *** [ ]
JoeSakicPL: checks
JohnBevan882: bets 24000
JoeSakicPL: calls 24000
*** TURN *** [ ] []
JoeSakicPL: checks
JohnBevan882: bets 81805 and is all-in
JoeSakicPL: calls 81805
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***

Thoughts on each street would be appreciated

Firsty speech play is rarely needed, usually you give more away then gain anything from it so stick to staying silent during a hand. Obviously general chat get involved but while you are in a hand just stay stumm, thats my theory anyway.

There are some merits to speech play, but its usually poor etiquette and only properly works if you understand it which you clearly dont ITT (apologise if sounds harsh)

Hand 1 you have peeled A2 suited, not really a fan of how the hand has played out and on turn you have to stack off really
Hand 2 NH doubt speech play made a difference though
Hnad 3 VNH again as stated cooler

Based on the description that the villain to your right was limp calling alot, I suggested a bigger three bet size to get max value pre. 

But I still don't get your logic for three betting - if a hand like Jto plays well against Ax, Kx etc (your words), then why not just flat and use the deeper stacks to exploit your edge?  If you're in position, you can float tonnes of boards and use your 'initiative' to win the pot on later streets.  Fish play each street increasingly badly, so we want them making sub-optimal decisions on the turn and river.  If he's never folding, just three bet a value range, and this range should be iso-ing more pre, ainec imo.

 Surely as well we want him to fold at least some of the time pre, otherwise we are just inflating pots unnecessarily, albeit in position.  I could understand your logic if we were say 200bb deep, as then you can put him in some horrible spots oop, but ~100bb deep, I think you should be three betting a more polarised range against this described villain.

Yeah good point, maybe i dont need to balance my 3 bet range but generally OTB if stacks are deep enough i prefer to then to call behind which is pretty weak. Still arguments for both no doubt and maybe i shouldnt be trying to 'take the initiative' vs someone who is gonna peel alot.

Also yeah good point thats a huge shove by them, at the time i assumed he could be spazzing out and talked myself into calling it sometimes need to think a bit more

Thanks Pugwash, also everyone. Mixed opinions really. When i was 3 betting previously blinds were pretty weak not peeling or putting a 4b in so was comfortable with a smallish. Any bigger 3b would get alot of folds or initiate a 4bet, in game IMO could be wrong but havent played cash in a while... especially on stars had a spare hour, finished up which was a bon@rs