See this Sky Sports undercard, is Calum Smith even in the same weight division as his opponent?

Super Middle

Aye where does the weight go tho. That's no the first time on Sky he's looked enormous compared to his opponent!

See this Sky Sports undercard, is Calum Smith even in the same weight division as his opponent?

Ok, it seems to be a common theme amongst these new bookies. As a rule of thumb they look worth not bothering with.

Does anyone have any experience using www.winner.com?

Reliable? Cashouts timely? Problems?

TIA

Oddly enough, they were discussed elsewhere this morning.

Feedback was not good.

Tikay do you happen to be thinking of Betway?

Boxing

Ian "Lay 'Em Out"Lewison v Tom "The Bomb"Dallas - This is low grade domestic stuff, Lewison has been hyped as being a level or two above this grade but I'm not convinced.  He is 7-2-1 with a points defeat to journeyman Colin Kenna on his record, admittedly he was really fat that night whereas tonight he will be just fat.  Dallas was 15-0 before stepping in at short notice against David Price and getting KO'd in the 2nd round, he followed that up with a stoppage defeat against Matt Skelton followed by a stoppage in Prizefighter.  He is pretty fragile and could get blown away early but shouldn't be a 3/1 shot here imo as Lewison has shown very little so far,  has never gone beyond 4 rounds and his physique would suggest that the longer the fight goes the better it is for Dallas.  Recommend £20 on Dallas at 3/1 with Betfred.

Classy guy this Lewison fella, he reportedly arrived at the weigh in yesterday with condoms and lubrication, threatening to 'f**k' Dallas up.

The price looks good as an over hyped fat domestic level slugger shouldn't be a 3-1 favourite over a similarly ranked domestic level slugger.

What price were Armenia to beat the Czechs?

It's after timing time, 10-1

Fred might not back in play but I like Wales £5 @11/1. 1-0 down atm 35 mins in, but they have been really unlucky and knocking the ball around well and have been dominant and were unlucky with the goal.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/matches/fyr-macedonia-v-wales/winner

Nice spit the own came too soon though. Wales still look the value at 1-1.

Can see us holding out for a bit, I might take Belgium in play.

Well Belgium at 3/4 looks about right.

Looks about right.

I'm a huge Canelo fan, have bet on him several times and my words after the Trout fight were 'back him big vs anyone bar Mayweather'.   

Floyd by UD IMO as the guy simply does not get hit.

Gasquet leads 5-2 in the 5th, let's not get it out of proportion

I hate backing Odds on. I hate backing my team at odds on.

In terms of what i consider value though I have to ask peoples thoughts on Arsenal to beat Sunderland next weekend at 4/5 with PP. Also beats 1.75 Betty

In terms of highs and lows both must be on extremes after the last few days. In a typical renewal of this match(last 10 years) the prices PP offer would be about right, but on current form and well being surely some value in this?

:2nd that. I hit the max bet button yesterday at 1.8

Ozil may be the best player to join the Premier League this year, but the fact remains the best players in the world play for Madrid, Barca, Bayern, PSG or Monaco.

There's a lot of very very good players at Citeh, Utd, Chelsea, Lolerpool, Spurs and Arsenal

But Messi, Ronaldo, Falcao, Cavani, Iniesta, Xavi, Ibrhimovich, Ribery etc etc etc don't

And when we finally produce a player to match these superstars. Bale, he goes off to join Madrid just as he's reaching the prime of his career.

Anyone suggest why this is?

I certainly can't see imagine an English club being the dominant force in Europe for the foreseeable future. (Chelsea fluked the CL, didn't they?)

Pretty sad really

The Russia factor? England is a less glamorous place to live so they pay higher wages to compensate for it.
Possible tax breaks?

It's a good point about the bleak future for English sides in the CL.

And the Rooney to stay bet lands.

Athletico Madrid are well worth a punt for the CL at 50/1 e/w with SportingBet. Woulda done a write up for Fred but the price has generally crashed plus it takes forever to type stuff up with one good arm.