Eames finishes 4th for $3m. GG

Seems a decent manager, the problem is the shower of shit he has to put on the pitch every saturday.

Fingers crossed for him!

Have to question why anybody like Big Sam/ Moyes/ Hughton would want to come to us right now though. We're a mess.

Massive transfer/wage budget for the division.   The most patient loyal owners probably in football (Hughes and Jones would have been fired much quicker with 90% of other owners with similar wealth and wage/transfer budgets relative to their league position at the time) Family run/lifelong supported club.   Owners are right up there wealth wise with the richest owners in football in the world.  Impossible for any of those 3 managers (and many others) to get a better job imo to make a name for themselves/reinvent their career.  Central location bang on the m6 so very easy to commute to without having to relocate from vast areas of the midlands/NW.

Stoke are also just outside the play offs in the xg league table this season so they are running bad.  

The bigger the mess to sort out if they pull it off the bigger their ego gets stroked and the most impressive their skills look.   Personally i'd love to see TP back to really sort out the egos in that dressing room.    It needs a TP/big sam/Moyes type character for me.   Unproven young/upcoming managers haven't worked with 3 attempts.

With the parachute payments ending and financial fair play rules looking a potential issue, surely it's not as simple as this. If we can't shift some high earning players relatively soon then there's not financial freedom for the new manager.

Have to question why anybody like Big Sam/ Moyes/ Hughton would want to come to us right now though. We're a mess.

Been looking at odds for Glastonbury headliners next summer, and one bet that really stands out to me is Kasabian to headline the pyramid stage @ 12/1 with Shy Bet.

Back in 2014 they headlined the festival for the first time, just a couple of weeks after they has released their new album. Also just a week or so before their headline slot they performed a homecoming at Victoria Park in Leicester, which obviously later turned out to be a warm up gig for Glasto.

The past couple of weeks the band have been teasing a new album release for next year on social media, and have just yesterday announced the same homecoming gig in Leicester, the weekend before Glastonbury 2020.

After speaking to a few mates who are huge fans of the band believe it's a glastonbury warm up gig.

12/1 with Shy looks a very decent price, would comfortably take anything double figures and would probably still flick a 20 ball at 8's.

The Leicester gig is their ''only UK show in 2020''.
I know bands sometimes tell porkies but if they are to be believed then Glasto looks to be a non-starter?

Perhaps so, but with the secrecy surrounding Glastonbury headliners I wouldn't be at all surprised if the "only uk show" is being used to throw everybody off the scent!

Take it as you will, but a very good point.

Been looking at odds for Glastonbury headliners next summer, and one bet that really stands out to me is Kasabian to headline the pyramid stage @ 12/1 with Shy Bet.

Back in 2014 they headlined the festival for the first time, just a couple of weeks after they has released their new album. Also just a week or so before their headline slot they performed a homecoming at Victoria Park in Leicester, which obviously later turned out to be a warm up gig for Glasto.

The past couple of weeks the band have been teasing a new album release for next year on social media, and have just yesterday announced the same homecoming gig in Leicester, the weekend before Glastonbury 2020.

After speaking to a few mates who are huge fans of the band believe it's a glastonbury warm up gig.

12/1 with Shy looks a very decent price, would comfortably take anything double figures and would probably still flick a 20 ball at 8's.

FA cup final 2011. Still hurts thinking back to Yaya Toure smashing home the winner

[Do you really see them finishing above both Liverpool and City]

Is 11/1 for Chelsea to win the premier league outright value? Price is with Betvictor

Narrowly beats the machine but they've largely beaten trees so far. Do you really see them finishing above both Liverpool and City is the question? The dual forecast for that pair is now 8-13 best and I'd have it shorter still myself.

Chelsea don't have the strikeforce and, while a happy Hazard is world-class, he can't do it all himself. Think I'd sooner back Hazard 14-1 four spots for top scorer than Chelsea to win the Prem.

No, but didn't know if the price was good for a small punt. Can't see how it'll be anything but a 1 or 2 horse race, but wasn't sure if 11s was too big. Chelsea play Liverpool twice in a few days towards the end of the month, it could be worth revisiting after that.

Is 11/1 for Chelsea to win the premier league outright value? Price is with Betvictor

Ryan woods due for a medical at Stoke today after a £6.5m fee agreed yesterday. I've heard a few good things about him, anybody care to tell me more?

We seem to have 10 or more central midfielders on our books at the moment, how is woods different?

The general consensus from stoke fans is not even Pep could sort out this mess. I'm not sure Rowett's the issue, he's inherited a toxic squad that needs to be burnt down and built up from scratch. I think the problem is we've got 2 blokes behind the scenes who control a lot of the transfers, and there's a lot of disharmony right from the top of the club all the way through the ranks. It caused Hughes frustration multiple times under us and I don't think much has changed. We're leagues away from the well drilled, well run club we had in the Pulis and early Hughes years.

stoke to go down?

Couldn't put you off the 33/1 on offer as a small punt.

That was shocking tonight. Something is seriously wrong at the club, from top to bottom it's a shambles. The players have no confidence, baffling selections, baffling tactics, no depth to the squad, questionable signings.

Still very early days, but it seems not too dissimilar to what happened at Sunderland last season.

No depth in the squad?  We must have the biggest wage bill in the league and bundles of depth.  Most of the signings seem reasonable solid as well for this level.  Ince/Williams/Afobe all rock solid on paper at this level.

Bundles of depth? We've got bundles of central midfielders, not bundles of depth. For example, we only have 3 CB's (1 injured and 1 suspended) leaving only Shawcross, who by the way is dreadful. Going into any campaign with only 3 natural centre backs, one of whom has reoccurring back issues, is not what I'd consider depth, especially considering our defence was so poor last season you would think this would be priority number 1.

£5m for Mcclean is hideous, we've well and truly had our pants pulled down on this one. Williams beyond a joke tonight, looked like he was trying to get sent off. Ince and Afobe not living up to the hype yet, but early days for them.

I'm usually pretty positive regarding Stoke, but this season couldn't have started much worse, and there's not much to suggest anything's going to be changing quickly. Hope I'm wrong and am eating humble pie in a few months.

That was shocking tonight. Something is seriously wrong at the club, from top to bottom it's a shambles. The players have no confidence, baffling selections, baffling tactics, no depth to the squad, questionable signings.

Still very early days, but it seems not too dissimilar to what happened at Sunderland last season.

This is just brilliant from our CEO.  One of our young fans committed suicide a few months ago and the club has fully got behind a campaign to highlight mental heath issues, but this is taking it a step further.

https://twitter.com/CWRyder/status/1029315493172326400

Fantastic.