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31  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: April 02, 2019, 11:56:20 AM
By any reasonable measure, it is pretty outrageous that MP’s could back a Norway style deal.

Freedom of movement still allowed? Really Huh??

There is no regard in Parliament for the will of the people - people voted for Brexit for control of our own destiny, our own borders, our own laws.

No one voted for Brexit expecting a deal to involve continued freedom of movement, in fact, both main parties agreed to end it.

As usual it’s the political elite saying fuck you to voters. We’ll do what we want, not what you voted for.



I missed the referendum where people had so much choice - didn't people just vote to leave?

You think people that voted to leave wanted to retain EU controls/law making?

They voted to leave and that clearly involved ending freedom of movement. The polls indicated that was what people wanted and the main stream parties adopted that policy. There really wasn’t any grey area in that respect.

Every person that voted leave that I have spoken to was clear that us taking control was what they wanted.

The idea that free movement of people should be an option beggars belief.



Many people, such as Jacob Rees-Mogg (for example) have long had a problem with Parliamentary sovereignty being replaced by EU sovereignty - that's why a lot of people voted leave.

I just had a look at opinion polls - they suggest that half* of those who voted for leave did so because of immigration.

So if less than 9 million people have a problem with freedom of movement in the EU and well over 50 million people don't - to me that doesn't seem too unreasonable for it to be an option.


*about 48% mentioned it - only about a third said it was the important reason.

Opinion polls show that around 70% of the whole population think that immigration has been too high and should be reduced/controlled.

That’s the reason why both parties adopted policies to end unlimited freedom of movement.

I have no problem with controlled immigration on our terms for the good of our country. Uncontrolled freedom of movement is not what people want and should not be an option for MPs in Brexit votes.

There's no such thing as uncontrolled freedom of movement.
32  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: April 02, 2019, 08:17:14 AM
When people mention polls be back up their arguement can we get a link or reference to the poll? It completely invalidates using it as evidence if you don’t.
33  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: *****"The Official 2017 Golf Betting and Discussion Thread"***** on: March 30, 2019, 10:14:12 PM
Oh Tiger
34  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: *****"The Official 2017 Golf Betting and Discussion Thread"***** on: March 30, 2019, 12:46:13 PM
Think Cantlay to win his group at 2.5/1 is printing money, despite Tigers record.

Great shout
35  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: *****"The Official 2017 Golf Betting and Discussion Thread"***** on: March 28, 2019, 10:01:16 PM
Had a Furyk, Cantay, Woodland, Bjerregaard quad to all win their matches. Lucas misses a 20ft birdie putt by 15ft to bogie the 18th and tie. Fuming!
36  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: *****"The Official 2017 Golf Betting and Discussion Thread"***** on: March 27, 2019, 04:25:08 PM
Gone for-
Rose (20)
Cantlay (50)
An (70ew)
And a punty each way on Furyk (95ew)

Then a bunch of bets for group winners and match winners. Think Cantlay to win his group at 2.5/1 is printing money, despite Tigers record.
37  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: *****"The Official 2017 Golf Betting and Discussion Thread"***** on: March 24, 2019, 04:58:06 PM
Cheers man, gl tonight guys
38  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: *****"The Official 2017 Golf Betting and Discussion Thread"***** on: March 24, 2019, 01:36:51 PM
Does the golf channel stream work for UK residents? Would be nice to sweat this and the PGA tour at the same time while pokering later.
39  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: *****"The Official 2017 Golf Betting and Discussion Thread"***** on: March 22, 2019, 12:33:50 AM
Stefani with an eagle on 16 for the sweat but nice hold. 
40  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: *****"The Official 2017 Golf Betting and Discussion Thread"***** on: March 21, 2019, 06:26:51 PM
Woodland (25)
Stenson (35)
Sneds (55ew)
Im (60ew)

Punts
Willet (125ew)
Straka first round leader (250ew)

My team for the week.

Holllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllld
41  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: *****"The Official 2017 Golf Betting and Discussion Thread"***** on: March 21, 2019, 01:44:42 AM
Woodland (25)
Stenson (35)
Sneds (55ew)
Im (60ew)

Punts
Willet (125ew)
Straka first round leader (250ew)

My team for the week.
42  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Champions League Quarter Final Draw on: March 15, 2019, 04:53:18 PM
Probably the best draw for United. Will be 2 great games to watch, nice to see Messi at Old Trafford one last time. Avoid the embarrassment of getting knocked out by either of the two teams worse than us. Avoid getting pumped by Liverpool and City.
43  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: New Zealand Mosque shootings on: March 15, 2019, 04:47:41 PM
Do you think some folks maybe get desensitised to brutal killing by playing computer games or watching too many violent movies?

I got sent the vid via a whatsapp group with some football friends. If someone would have said to me before i watched it was footage from a new Call Of Duty/Battlefield game I would 100% have believed them. Seeing stuff like this from a first person angle doesn't look real. I was pretty shocked/slightly disturbed with myself that it didn't affect me in anyway. I'm a bit of a wet wipe with most stuff like vids on Facebook of animals getting mistreated, bullying etc but this seems just so detached from reality.
44  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: *****"The Official 2017 Golf Betting and Discussion Thread"***** on: March 14, 2019, 11:33:57 AM
I've gone for all the South Koreans;
Hideki (40)
Im (90ew)
An (100ew)
SWK (70ew)

plus

Woodland(55ew)
CH3 (60ew)
Kisner (100ew)
Kirk (200ew)

GL everyone

45  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: *****"The Official 2017 Golf Betting and Discussion Thread"***** on: March 11, 2019, 12:16:04 PM
Shame RCB couldn't carry his approach on 18 by another yard to make it interesting.  Had a little bit ew on Im at 100/1 as well which was nice. Great to see 10/12 UK guys make the cut and 4 in the top 6. Feels like Rory's concentration is lacking a bit. He took 3 wood off the tee at either 15 or 16 I think, asking it to sit in mid air as it carried into the bunker. Seemed a weird club selection when he would have had a sub 200 approach with a 5 wood and he'd have taken the bunker out of play.

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