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Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: 2016/17 rumourmill and confirmed transfers
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on: July 04, 2016, 08:45:31 PM
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Who gives a shit if Fergie is to blame, which it sounds like he is, he managed something money can't buy and it will never be replicated.
Is he to blame - Yes
Does it effect his legacy by 1% - No
He also helped plunge you guys into this multiple year transition period by delaying his retirement and leaving a distinctly average, unbalanced, ageing squad as his handover to his successor. I know some united fans who think he did this on purpose to cement his legacy, and whomever was to take over after him was basically fucked from day 1. I digress Kroos for £65m or Pogba for £100m? Which represents the better value? Both are one of the dominos needed to fall to spark the transfer window scramble. Mondatoo is a member of the Toon Army. . If anybody fucked us over it was Aguero with that ridiculous last minute goal. SAF would have retired 12 months earlier but for that. But let's not forget that SAF left a squad which had just won the PL Those United fans you know probably think the moon landings were faked too, do they wear tinfoil on their heads whenever they leave the house? Yeah but that season, RVP basically won you the league. It was a shite season, we offered a pathetic defence of our title and all the other contenders were nowhere to be seen and even worse than City. That Aguero goal also kept Mancini in a job for another 12 months. So he left a title winning squad, but ultimately a pretty average bunch of players, and you haven't had a sniff of the league since or even come remotely close. Some of those united fans include some of the ones I actually have some respect for. Ok, it's highly unlikely he sabotaged the squad to make it as difficult as possible for the next man, but it seems he was hell bent on winning the title back, did just that, then fucked off with very little regard for the state of the playing staff going forward. Looking after No1 and cementing his legacy? You tell me. There is no doubt that Moyes was completely out of his depth, but Fergie did him no favours whatsoever. I appreciate that you have a deep well of resentment and bitterness about the years from 1968 to the arrival of the Sheikh. It was, no doubt, tough being a City fan in that era. But seriously, it's only been three seasons since we last won the league and nobody has defended it well since then. Will it be another three seasons before we win it again? Maybe. Maybe it will be longer. But nobody can take away the memories of that magical period overseen by SAF. Not even if Mourimho himself takes us to back to back trebles. Which clearly he won't. Not sure what City's lack of success from the 70s onwards has to do with Fergie leaving an average (at best) squad and letting Pogba go, who could now rejoin for £100m. Obviously he can do no wrong in your eyes and I can understand that, but taking the emotion away from it, he messed up big time with him. The state of the squad he left is subjective, and his reasons for doing so equally so, but I'm sure even we can agree that he has to take ultimate responsibility for letting Pogba slip away. I'd be amazed if he ever returns to Salford when the likes of Real Madrid and Barca are sniffing around him.
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Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: 2016/17 rumourmill and confirmed transfers
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on: July 04, 2016, 08:01:23 PM
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Who gives a shit if Fergie is to blame, which it sounds like he is, he managed something money can't buy and it will never be replicated.
Is he to blame - Yes
Does it effect his legacy by 1% - No
He also helped plunge you guys into this multiple year transition period by delaying his retirement and leaving a distinctly average, unbalanced, ageing squad as his handover to his successor. I know some united fans who think he did this on purpose to cement his legacy, and whomever was to take over after him was basically fucked from day 1. I digress Kroos for £65m or Pogba for £100m? Which represents the better value? Both are one of the dominos needed to fall to spark the transfer window scramble. Mondatoo is a member of the Toon Army. . If anybody fucked us over it was Aguero with that ridiculous last minute goal. SAF would have retired 12 months earlier but for that. But let's not forget that SAF left a squad which had just won the PL Those United fans you know probably think the moon landings were faked too, do they wear tinfoil on their heads whenever they leave the house? Yeah but that season, RVP basically won you the league. It was a shite season, we offered a pathetic defence of our title and all the other contenders were nowhere to be seen and even worse than City. That Aguero goal also kept Mancini in a job for another 12 months. So he left a title winning squad, but ultimately a pretty average bunch of players, and you haven't had a sniff of the league since or even come remotely close. Some of those united fans include some of the ones I actually have some respect for. Ok, it's highly unlikely he sabotaged the squad to make it as difficult as possible for the next man, but it seems he was hell bent on winning the title back, did just that, then fucked off with very little regard for the state of the playing staff going forward. Looking after No1 and cementing his legacy? You tell me. There is no doubt that Moyes was completely out of his depth, but Fergie did him no favours whatsoever.
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Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: 2016/17 rumourmill and confirmed transfers
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on: July 04, 2016, 04:58:00 PM
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Who gives a shit if Fergie is to blame, which it sounds like he is, he managed something money can't buy and it will never be replicated.
Is he to blame - Yes
Does it effect his legacy by 1% - No
He also helped plunge you guys into this multiple year transition period by delaying his retirement and leaving a distinctly average, unbalanced, ageing squad as his handover to his successor. I know some united fans who think he did this on purpose to cement his legacy, and whomever was to take over after him was basically fucked from day 1. I digress Kroos for £65m or Pogba for £100m? Which represents the better value? Both are one of the dominos needed to fall to spark the transfer window scramble.
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Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Noisy Neighbours - the Man City thread
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on: July 03, 2016, 07:05:39 PM
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Arteta has joined the coaching staff, apparently turned down a similar role at Arsenal amongst others to work with Pep. Another in the long line of Arsenal people to jump ship for Manchester Not exactly true but let's not spoil the narrative. He has been friends with Pep since they were kids at Barca and this has been on the cards for ages. Didn't think I'd get a bite as easy as that. He did turn down a coaching role at Arsenal though, as you say he has years of history with Pep and what an opportunity to work alongside him.
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Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Tinker on.
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on: July 03, 2016, 05:52:51 PM
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I have got a signed picture postcard of Christian Fuchs holding the EPL trophy. My brother lives in New York and his wife teaches at Fuch's kids school in Manhattan. He came into the school and met all the kids after the season ended. If anyone wants the signed card for themselves or their kids PM me and i will post it to you.
Sounds like Billy big bollocks, winning the title then going into a school and signing a few postcards. Don't need personalities like his around the dressing room. I do hope you missed off the smiley to indicate this was a joke. Thought it was obvious enough without the need for emoticons.
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Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Tinker on.
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on: July 03, 2016, 01:01:02 PM
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I have got a signed picture postcard of Christian Fuchs holding the EPL trophy. My brother lives in New York and his wife teaches at Fuch's kids school in Manhattan. He came into the school and met all the kids after the season ended. If anyone wants the signed card for themselves or their kids PM me and i will post it to you.
Sounds like Billy big bollocks, winning the title then going into a school and signing a few postcards. Don't need personalities like his around the dressing room.
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Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: 2016/17 rumourmill and confirmed transfers
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on: July 03, 2016, 12:17:27 PM
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You have to laugh if this materialises. The worst bit of business in the history of football? IE letting him go for fuck all to then break the transfer record to get him back a few years later. I know there is more to it than that but that is essentially the case. I was under the impression Pogba wasn't interested in going back to Salford. There is transfer merry-go-round just waiting to happen, just needs the first domino to fall....
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