with champagne out, someone take a look at the new market and shape and see if anything should be done please?

Sire 3/1
Sprinter 3/1

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/cheltenham/15:20/winner

surely we must have something at a price e/w with all the doubts about the big two?

Id take the two old boys (sizing europe/ somersby), if the race falls apart them two are likely to run their race.

Can see a ridiculous gallop and if one of the main protagonists looms large a couple of horses may crack but these two wont. Still massive question marks about all of the top 4.


Coral cup think the best two horses on price are volnay de thaix and lac fontana. volnay has the same mark as last time where he got within two lengths of ROR, if you stick that one in it would go off much shorter. Hasnt done much wrong all season. Lac fontana run like a dog last time out but did that last season in one but won at the festival last year beating arctic fire. That forms looking ok now....

surely champagne fever goes off at a bigger price when money pours on sacre and grugy or am i wrong

probably although sire de grugy has never really been a horse bettors got behind, he went off a ridiculous price (11/4) last year, after utterly dominating the year and against the worst field in Ive ever seen. Also have the mullins factor, if hes on a run tomorrow again.

oh so it isnt enough to win every race.... he needs the first three. BOOM

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Hills special every 15
Jezki 6/1

Thanks Ex.

Think that has to be taken, even though Fred is already on, & I've previously had some off-thread, too.

I've had another £25 EW for Fred, could not resist.

If Tighty disagrees, no worries, I'll take it off-thread. 

Jezki, £25 EW @ 6/1, Wm Hill.

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Bet cant be wrong in that race

Cheers for that John, I'm lucky enough to still have my Boyles account so got the 16/5  

yeah me to, although feel a bit of a donkey for still having one

Wasn't on myselft, but good shout mate!

Welcome to the fold, you're in esteemed company

I see, you have the advanced formula for keeping a boyle account- dont risk putting a winning bet on.

Are boyles that bad? They cant be worse than paddypower.

Pleased a few got on, Im reitring, quitting while Im ahead innit

Cheers for that John, I'm lucky enough to still have my Boyles account so got the 16/5  

yeah me to, although feel a bit of a donkey for still having one

Leeds away are 3/1 with boyles vs relegation zone and the team with the worst home record in the league. Leeds have won three of their last 4 away including middlesbrough. Price seems an overreaction to two teams going the right way beating them.

thanks

Boyles won't lay us a bet. i am not sure i know anyone who they lay a bet

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/wigan-v-leeds/winner

4.0 betfair before comm, so i thought we would get you off the mark

Leeds Match Odds    4    £20.00    
£60.00
Ref: 47167121039M Matched: 11:57 07-Mar-15

 

Leeds 1-0 FT

Leeds away are 3/1 with boyles vs relegation zone and the team with the worst home record in the league. Leeds have won three of their last 4 away including middlesbrough. Price seems an overreaction to two teams going the right way beating them.

Free bet if UDS loses arkle (if you back UDS) from boyle or the opposite from PP.

Cant see a reason to not back both favs in first two races with the money back offers on both

8 left in the champ hurdle.  How likely all 8 run?  just thinking of getting the 1/4 1,2,3 now nrnb as every horse is ew value anyway.  If there are 1 or 2 nr's then 1/4 123 is a gift.  Anyone got any thoughts?

Ladbrokes gone 10/3 the new one today for example (so 5/6 a place when its 1/2 a place on bf) and that assumes all 8 run if it cuts up to 5 or 6 runners then it's a massive freeroll betting early.

same question put another way

is there anything outside the top 4 that can get in the frame?

faugheen wins, 2 of fly/jezki/new one place.....which is the live outsider?

thanks

artic fire has close form with jezki and HF and solid enough at cheltenham.

glens melody 4/1 is a steal (cant imagine not taking bitofapuzzle and caroles spirit e/w aswell).

Have a load of artic fire at 25/33s and the fly at 20s, was seriously hoping one of the big three didnt contest but delighted the numbers overall are falling apart.

I like court minstrel, as long as its good ground. (dont know if the horse has had a problem, last time out was inexplicably run on ground it would hate and not seen since, but did the same last season to good effect)

ty for the welcomes. Thread is decent, don't mind the argument as it's pretty informative and well argued on both sides. I only bet/lay and have no knowledge of the bookie side of thing or associated so have actually found it quite interesting. Was thinking it was the same as we always see on forums/across the board (especially towards casinos) where people attack any non-direct attempt to take money but have been quite swayed by the argument that a tipping site makes money from losing bets (I am not questioning that tips are genuine only that it is a clear conflict of interest).

Seen basically the same argument time and again, notably when Mr C was involved in karatepoker.

Excellent updates, ty

thanks