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31  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Tips for Tikay on: June 15, 2017, 03:35:15 PM
Dhawan out for 46, puts him safely back in lead. If India go through Sharma is the last real threat.
32  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Tips for Tikay on: June 15, 2017, 02:59:36 PM
Great tipstering work again Hector.

Thank you.

Well done and ty Hector
33  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Tips for Tikay on: June 15, 2017, 02:03:36 PM
Champions Trophy cricket starts on Thursday. Think Shikhar Dhawan has been a bit under-estimated at 33/1 for top bat. Strong records against his 3 group opponents, in good form and playing for a side that are odds on to make the semi's. A tough market to win, but would recc a small bet on him.

Full preview : https://www.bettingkingdom.co.uk/betting-tips/cricket/CT/Champions-Trophy-outright-Shikhar-Dhawan-top-batsman-each-way/81248

https://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/icc-champions-trophy/top-tournament-batsman



England's defeat today has a silver lining, as Root was a danger to the bet.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2017/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=11237;type=tournament

Surprised hes not shorter tbh, considering Indias price to final, only Iqbal near and hes a similar price to those 90-100 back. Created a decent interest for me, especially after today, clearly decent info, cheers.

Tamim making it a sweat 😰

that 0 vs new zealand was a godsend lol, hes on incred form. India go through we should be in the bag, a century would be nice tho....
34  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Big Boxing Thread on: June 15, 2017, 12:16:57 AM
Farce.

Floyd as good a 1/10 as you will find in a long time though.

Its genius, Floyd fights someone whos never boxed before for 100 million and mcgregor pulls a fee he could never dreamed of in UFC.
35  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Tips for Tikay on: June 14, 2017, 11:47:14 PM
Guys. I'm posting on my phone at the moment as I'm travelling so sorry for not writing more about each bet. The Muller Seppi match went as I thought it might. Very tight and serve orientated. From memory I think  Muller won 1/5 breaks, seppi 0/3. Could have gone either way or to three sets at least.

Didn't follow the Zverev v mannarino game but I suspect the boy Zverev was a bit too good on this occasion. The hold/break data just isnt there on grass for Zverev and he lacks experience on the surface, but I'm willing to concede that perhaps he is improving so fast that he is ahead of his data curve (so to speak) so perhaps I need to start giving him more respect.

Would love other people to post their thoughts on tennis too. Glad to see hector back in the tennis fold.


Wouldn't apologise, at all. Think it's pretty well known that you research all your bets thoroughly.

I know as much about tennis, as I do about running marathons, but I still like punting Grin

This, really enjoy it when we get an input on a wide range of sports and others betting subjects. On that front the thread is a poorer place for not having Tal around, hope hes well.
36  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: June 14, 2017, 11:33:17 PM
What do we think of Labour's shadow cabinet changes?

Are we surprised about how few changes there have been, I don't know much about Lesley Laird the new Shadow Scottish Secretary. 

Owen Smith could be a good appointment for Shadow Northern Ireland Sec.

I genuinley thought we'd see more change though and had hoped that Corbyn would have really got rid of a few who were clearly not up to the job,  most notably Diane Abbot.

I thought Barry Gardiner might have got a better brief.

I never expected him to make the change but taking McDonnell from Shadow Chancellor and giving him a different role could have been a masterstroke for electioneering purposes.

Missed a trick imo, hes humbled his MPs and it was time to bring the talent back. Home secretary is the big carrot he has left, but he cant give it out as Abbott because shes ill wouldnt play too well with the party of the unions. Kind of hamstrung by their own tactic there.

37  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Tips for Tikay on: June 14, 2017, 10:07:22 PM
Champions Trophy cricket starts on Thursday. Think Shikhar Dhawan has been a bit under-estimated at 33/1 for top bat. Strong records against his 3 group opponents, in good form and playing for a side that are odds on to make the semi's. A tough market to win, but would recc a small bet on him.

Full preview : https://www.bettingkingdom.co.uk/betting-tips/cricket/CT/Champions-Trophy-outright-Shikhar-Dhawan-top-batsman-each-way/81248

https://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/icc-champions-trophy/top-tournament-batsman

England's defeat today has a silver lining, as Root was a danger to the bet.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2017/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=11237;type=tournament

Surprised hes not shorter tbh, considering Indias price to final, only Iqbal near and hes a similar price to those 90-100 back. Created a decent interest for me, especially after today, clearly decent info, cheers.
38  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Trolling - Bans Incoming on: June 14, 2017, 09:49:32 PM

Junior91 now banned.

so you're taking the stance racism and bigotry is accepted? interesting

Ironic name for someone of your views. ISIS wouldnt have happened on Saddams watch.
39  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: June 14, 2017, 09:28:09 PM
Tim Farron resigned as LibDem leader

Strange just when the god botherers were getting some power ;p
40  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: June 13, 2017, 10:36:26 PM
The education level part is probably skewed by older voters not going to uni in the same percentages as the young.

Yep, anyone who thinks that education level is some sort of damning statistic when it comes to political leanings is misguided. Too many people go to Uni these days and half the courses are totally useless. It would have meant something 30 years ago before D students would go to Rotherham University to study Gender Studies.

I'd like to see the stats for amount of tax paid.

Half the courses are totally useless?
I see this thrown around a lot and agree  certainly there are some that are not worthwhile and some less than stellar universities.

Seems a bit unfair to say half though..

I searched around a bit to see what the most popular courses are, and it seems that law, business, computing, medicine are most popular subjects still.



My 'half' stat is not grounded in anything specific, but a great deal of University courses are the Humanties which really are useless unless you become a Humanties teacher. More importantly, there are approximately 6 graduates for every graduate level job, so most people are going to come out of Uni bitterly disappointed.

If it's not grounded on anything stop pulling numbers out of thin air to try and make a point.

Humanities which I assume you mean history/geography type subjects are a tiny proportion of degrees taken. They were not even in the top 10 courses.  
Like I said I looked around and the most popular degrees are still business, computing etc etc

I don't disagree that there are far to many grads for the number of jobs going. It's a massive issue for a lot of people who have been sold/pushed down the university route.

Think I said earlier in the thread even as someone pro university I think it was widened too much and would like to see investment  in non university routes for young people because it's the only option they seem to have/pushed down.

Where the degree comes from I agree I think this is the bigger issue actually, not what's studied. If you get a history degree from Oxbridge the world's your oyster.

Those that go to top universities have a much more rigourous challenge than some of the newer ones (obviously) employers know this. Even if you do a 'worthwhile' subject at one or these, it's very tough to compete.



Why don't kids do their own due diligence, like any normal person would, prior to investing circa £50-£100k of money into a long term investment project and work out if the degree they are doing at the uni they are going to attend is likely to generate sufficient rewards to justify the investment?  They can learn about supply/demand in the labour market and whether they are operating in an over supplied area or not?  Might teach them some lessons for the real world as well rather than just moaning when they come out of uni skint having studied a subject at a uni that has no demand in the real world?

Well your probably right on that regarding resesrch.
That said markets do change, I recall when i went to uni there was a massive demand for accountants and by the time we had finished demand had dropped a lot and on top of it a influx of people doing accountancy due to Blair increasing higher ed and it being a needed skill. Then found the employment market was quite tough.

However it's constantly pushed down there throats that it's the only option and sold to them as the only life path. It kind of has become due to lack of invesment in other areas. It's just wrong that entire generations are being pushed down this route because it's the done thing.
 At 18 it's quite hard to make objective life defining decisions like that without sounding patronising you are still growing up. You tend to listen to teachers, careers advisors and parents at that age and trust their judgement.

That's where we went wrong.

Fwiw not sure they are moaning either about it they just get on with it as a fact of life as nearly everyone who graduates is in the same boat.

bedtime, I agree with woodsey.

Think if I was advising kid from experience it would be to do a degree where the jobs on the tin, so you have every idea what youll be at the end. Most end up doing their best or favourite subject or being advised by people with michael mouse degrees like teachers.
41  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: June 13, 2017, 09:22:10 PM
Being posh and educated aren't a choice either if you come from his background and don't wish to rebel and not educate yourself just because it gives you a better chance to run the country.  What a stupid thing to say.  why should you have to 'tone down' being posh?  Whatever that means!

Yeah its stupid, you think rees-mogg can win an election and Im saying stupid things. Id hope you get him but noone else is ever going to consider him.

42  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: June 13, 2017, 09:16:11 PM
Roman Catholic can't be PM in this country.  Rules out Mogg.

Tony Blair was RC
43  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: June 13, 2017, 09:13:20 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg

This guy will do.  Not sure he wants the hassle.

Hes far too posh and lacks social awareness of just how posh he comes across, would be a landslide.

No more posh than Dave C but far smarter imo and a brexit supporter.

"I gradually realised that whatever I happened to be speaking about, the number of voters in my favour dropped as soon as I opened my mouth."



Says more about the British public than Mogg imo.  Why don't we want the elite and educated running our country?

Yup very true mate, many of the Labour chavs can't go for it though....

People take the piss out of Corbs for a year saying he was clueless.  TM was useless and not a leader or smart enough to debate under pressure.  Yet someone that could easily do it is too posh for the gig?  Wtf do the people want?  Some chav from a council estate in Rotherham who never went to school or uni, brought up on benefits yet is suddenly able to crush debating in PMQ's on a Wednesday lunchtime?

Read your own link, he couldnt get the tory voters who voted for his predecessors to vote for him, he bucked swings towards tories in previous elections.

Oh yeah lets get this fella-

Rees-Mogg also opposes marriage for same-sex couples, saying that he is "not proud" of it being legal and that it will alienate "traditional supporters" of his party.[41][42] Rees-Mogg's reasoning for this is that gay marriage does not align with the Roman Catholic faith, saying "It's purely a religious matter. It's a question of what is a sacrament."

I think the bigger picture is the fact certain people are considered 'too posh/educated' to run the country.  This might be why the country is in the mess it is.  It is just as bad as saying someone can't run the country because they are a woman/gay/black imo.

I dont think its fair to lump posh/educated into one thing. The issue is posh. Yes it may deny us a politician of great worth (dont think rees-mogg is that in all honesty hes a party rebel, to be awkward or for his own gains, and seems to represent a very old fashioned tory party, turn 19th of century) but if hes been aware of the issue hes had ample opportunity to tone it down, as you say hes no different to cameron. Its nothing like being a woman, gay or black because these things arent a choice. If I cant get a promotion because I sound like Vicky Pollard thats not fair, you should judge me on what I say, but I dont get the job all the same and its my choice whether I improve it or tone it down. Why is it any different from him.
44  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: June 13, 2017, 09:01:55 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg

This guy will do.  Not sure he wants the hassle.

Hes far too posh and lacks social awareness of just how posh he comes across, would be a landslide.

No more posh than Dave C but far smarter imo and a brexit supporter.

"I gradually realised that whatever I happened to be speaking about, the number of voters in my favour dropped as soon as I opened my mouth."



Says more about the British public than Mogg imo.  Why don't we want the elite and educated running our country?

Yup very true mate, many of the Labour chavs can't go for it though....

People take the piss out of Corbs for a year saying he was clueless.  TM was useless and not a leader or smart enough to debate under pressure.  Yet someone that could easily do it is too posh for the gig?  Wtf do the people want?  Some chav from a council estate in Rotherham who never went to school or uni, brought up on benefits yet is suddenly able to crush debating in PMQ's on a Wednesday lunchtime?

Read your own link, he couldnt get the tory voters who voted for his predecessors to vote for him, he bucked swings towards tories in previous elections.

Oh yeah lets get this fella-

Rees-Mogg also opposes marriage for same-sex couples, saying that he is "not proud" of it being legal and that it will alienate "traditional supporters" of his party.[41][42] Rees-Mogg's reasoning for this is that gay marriage does not align with the Roman Catholic faith, saying "It's purely a religious matter. It's a question of what is a sacrament."
45  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: June 13, 2017, 08:56:30 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg

This guy will do.  Not sure he wants the hassle.

Hes far too posh and lacks social awareness of just how posh he comes across, would be a landslide.

No more posh than Dave C but far smarter imo and a brexit supporter.

"I gradually realised that whatever I happened to be speaking about, the number of voters in my favour dropped as soon as I opened my mouth."



Says more about the British public than Mogg imo.  Why don't we want the elite and educated running our country?

Oh I agree, bring back the king.
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