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1186  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 21, 2016, 03:44:46 PM
Supremacist was probably wrong apologies on that front, but there is this mentality on these shores to believe that we're right and everyone else is wrong. 

I don't have the quote to hand sure it's been posted here, but Corbyn's view of Bin Laden - for me the clincher in that was what he said after the bit that was taken in context but blown out of proportion has actually happened.   We are in more danger with Bin Laden dead than alive imo. 

I fear though that once the issues in the middle east come to a head - and they will - maybe not in our lifetime but it will happen.  We'll just move on to somewhere else. 

The situations with Falklands and Gib for example and even Ireland.  Where do Britain get off? 

Being pragmatic isn't always the answer. 
1187  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 21, 2016, 03:27:35 PM

horrifying to me given Britain is a big terror target.


So why aren't we questioning why that's the case?  There are countless countries in the new modern world that we live in who don't have these issues.  Mostly because they themselves are not perpetrators of terror.  Britain is a peddler of War.  I think if memory serves me correctly we have been at War in one way or another for the last 100 years.  
1188  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 21, 2016, 03:10:45 PM
Hi,

I'm new to posting here but I have been a voyeur of the forum for quite some time.  I visit a number of web forums but tend not to sign up as:

a) I t wastes so much of my time
b) It's bad for the blood pressure

This thread though has really intrigued me though, and what comes through is the "little Britain/Englander" or supremacist view.  It's like some people have ingrained ideas and they refuse to take a wider view of the world.  

I mean no malice but no doubt my views will upset a few people.  Please be assured that is not my intention.  

I should also state that I am not a Labour supporter, I despise the conservatives, I see the Lib Dems as irrelevant.  There probably isn't a party that reflects my views.  Indeed, it is for that reason that I firmly support the implementation of PR.  It is far too difficult in 2016 to simply say Red Left/Blue Right.  

For what it's worth I can't help but think Corbyn get's bad press for no other reason that the media are fearful of him, because he actually does support real change and that is what is needed.  The current system doesn't work, indeed it probably never has but we just accept it.  

So a few questions:

Why should Britain have nuclear weapons but Iran shouldn't?  (Please try and answer this without saying we'd be a target for Iran)  
Who exactly is this mythical enemy we are fighting that we need this deterrent for?
Surely the foreign policy that has been courted by successive Governments is responsible for current security problems?
Pretty sure we all agree there are problems with the EU, but taking us out leaves us at the mercy of a loony fringe who continue this ongoing cycle?

The number of capable politicians we have is shockingly bad, and this applies cross party.  I look at some of them on a regular basis and I genuinely think who ties these peoples shoe laces on a day-to-day basis.  
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