Nothing more frustrating when the phone dies mid run especially during the first runs, I was massively tilted each time it happened to me as I was on for PBs each time and each run feels so much more significant at the beginning



I, somewhat stupidly, attempted a half marathon today on my own after Saturdays 5k PB . The plan was to just get round and hope to get close to 2 hours, would have been delighted with that seeing as I've only ran beyond 5km on the three 10ks so far and was a complete couch potato until recently.

16km of the 21km was completed in just over 1 hour 30mins. - Unfortunately I'd ran 11km away from my house so it was a long walk back in the dark with the sweat starting to freeze all over haha, I gave in and got an Uber the last few 

Really struggled to go off at a slow pace which I always do even though I consciously tried to, the first 1km was 5.10 when the 2 hour pace is 5.41. The next 7 were between 5.30 and 5.45 (good) but the following 8 were 5.48-6.08 when I finally had to stop.

If the finish was 1km away it wouldn't have been a problem but there was no chance I was making 21km without walking or close to 2 hours so I stopped it there, still happy with the result.


A few 15km runs and 3000 calories filled with carbs rather than the 1200 I had yesterday and I think the 2 hours is obtainable.


So much respect for anyone who completes any of these 10k/half/marathon distances it really is hard work

I get all sorts of twinges, my right knee has a sort of pain but goes away after 1km but the worst one is my right hip towards the backside, a few times I've had it where I end up limping all day the day after and into the second day. I stretch before and after so I'm not sure what it is. - It feels like it would be brought on if I was to run in a very tight clockwise circle, maybe I have one leg shorter than the other 

On all the training programmes I've seen there's lots of rest/cross train days - perhaps try cycling or swimming or doing something else on some of the days if the pain is still there, or just miss a few days but still stretch morning and night?

I did start a 24minute 5k programme for 4 weeks but only made it to day 10 - did some 400m x 10, 800m x 4, 1km x 3 and then 30 mins easies. It feels good to do them in the target times but I just want to run the distance for PBs each run lol



Since the last post I had a 2 week break in the middle but still found time for 14 runs. Ran either 5/10k the below times.

31st March = Milton Keynes Park Run 25.23
9th April = Second 10k, hilly and windy 58.34
29th April = 5k 24.53
4th May = Third 10k 53.07
6th May = 5k 23.45


Happy with the progression and still eating like a rabbit so going to continue this until 1st June before Vegas, try and lose another 10lbs and get a 23minute 5k and a 50 minute 10k. Just need to find a suitable hill or try some of this fartlek training rather than just running the same distance/route



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln1SmiXCfHg

Here's some inspiration, the speed these guys run is insane. I look at strava to see who has run the same routes as myself and compare times - some of them are running 10/20ks with average pace faster than I can sprint 100 meters its incredible.

Can't be too displeased with Dream Castle going off at from 16s 

[Rubys Razzle]

Great to see you posting again scotty, lost abit of interest in the dogs myself when I went back to work full time. How have you been?

Hey mate. I'm doing alright, thank you. No longer a betting shop manager, but still in love with greyhound racing. Had my biggest bet of the year on Rubys Razzle in the Henlow Gold Cup on Tuesday. How have you been?

I don't follow or have any idea about dogs apart from friends who have contacts who pass on tips sparingly - usually after they've been smashed in from to odds on. But I am interested in learning and following this thread now its back running

This name did ring a bell though, a friend is the owner, he did post on blonde a while back too


A few questions that may have been discussed before

How much is possible to get on say a 3/1 dog an hour before a race before it gets to evens, on a standard midweek meeting?
Am I right in thinking most shops have a £1000 single max win from their P+L charts? for "Bags" meetings and ~£50 singles for those that's not
What's the average amount matched on a midweek race on betfair, around 50k?
Are there many people who trade dogs for a living now?
Are there known "dodgy" trainers and owners or even tracks?
Is there a governing body like the BHA who runs the sport?
Big jackpots still running? Was it Dubai and co who took bags of money to a track to bet every possible outcome and come away with more bags of money a while back?

Probably best aimed at Arbboy, but interested to hear anyone's insight and good job on those picks so far 

[I also reckon Barney should be fave, thoughts?]

I also reckon Barney should be fave, thoughts?

Agree. Not even close.

If anyone was wondering about my Barny/Wade pick last week he's 1.7-1.8 this week vs James Wade

Would be on him vs wade this week if it wasn't his second game of the night

Draw no bet at evens is another option

Had a new record, a brand new sky account, open deposit, place a bet on Snedeker at 50-1, max they would lay is £75 - fair enough new account £5k exposure.

I then try to have a bet on Leishmann and am limited to 83p seconds after, same for all golfers.

Try Aintree and limited to a £30 win, seconds after placing the first bet

It may well be a bit pointless as it is Shy, so you'll lose the account soon enough anyway, but using your first bet to be a golfer at 66/1 under a great offer might never be the right strategy to keep the account.   

Agreed but I've found them almost redundant anyway, I was planning on getting 5/6 masters bets and topping up some Aintree bets today and happy to make it to the end of the day. Previously throwing some £200 champions league accys on was no use, and I've never used them for an "obscure" bet or small markets, just plain football, horses and maybe some darts - not even the 180 markets.

In, that was very easy 

Had a new record, a brand new sky account, open deposit, place a bet on Snedeker at 50-1, max they would lay is £75 - fair enough new account £5k exposure.

I then try to have a bet on Leishmann and am limited to 83p seconds after, same for all golfers.

Try Aintree and limited to a £30 win, seconds after placing the first bet

Aintree tomorrow

The 2.20 looks to be the ultimate trap, 8 runner race boosted to 3 and 1/4, Defi Du Seil best price 1/3 and four of the eight runners 66s - 200.

The Arkle was an account closer, just why do they offer these enhanced terms if they are closing losing accounts the instance an each way bet is placed?

Have been enjoying each run more and more, I've only been on 10 since starting 6 weeks ago, in between surviving a week snowboarding.

The cramping in feet and calves has gone from running although it was extreme whilst snowboarding I was stuck 3000m up needing 30 minutes rest to even get my feet in the bindings, one morning I did two runs and had to take the day off. - Thanks Sheriff I did have a look at compartment syndrome, and was convinced I had the lesser of the two but I do think it's just doing too much too quick, fingers crossed it stays away from now on.


Strava numbers

Run 1
1.5km flat - 7.47 - Gasping for air for 10 minutes after

Run 2
2.8km flat - 15.43 - Improvement but still a good 5 minutes to catch my breath

Run 3
4.5km flat but ~8 canal bridges - 27.00 - Legs started to go and strong pins and needles at the end but recovery time down again

Run 4
5.1km flat (12m high to low) 29.05 - Two laps of reservoir, hard work windy but recovery down to 2 mins. Tried very hard and very pleased to break 30mins

Run 5
1.8km flat - 9.56 - Jog along the canal with the dog, day after run 4

Run 6
5.1km flat (canal) - 28.00

18 day break including snowboarding

Run 7
10km mostly flat - 1.03.57 - Went off quick intending to do 3/4km at a quick pace but got some motivation and kept on plodding, pleased to do this, recovery quick

Run 8
1km flat - 5.22 - BIG mistake, took the dog out 20 mins after the 10k high on motivation, tried to run a 4min 1k and seized my legs completely

Run 9
5km (lots of up and down) - 27.29 - Went off at 26min pace with a friend (too quick) but 4th km was 6.13 instead of the 5.10s, 60m steep hill coming out of reservoir nearly finished me off

Run 10
5km Milton Keynes Park Run route - 26.11 - Again friend paced two of us for 26minutes but nothing left to kick on the final 1km, didn't know my time whilst running (would have found those 12 seconds!) - Recovery no more than a minute



Making progress on each run is a really good feeling and now I'm looking forward to the next one


In the mean time I've been eating healthy, minimal carbs and 1500-1800 calories daily (more like 4000 the week away) and lost just over a stone in the 5/6 weeks, down to 12stone. Beer belly refusing to shift but I can see why these horses run faster carrying a stone less.

Run 10 was two days ago, round of golf yesterday was going to try 25 minute pace for MK run again tonight but would most likely be futile. Going to try for 10k in an hour instead with friend of similar ability and see how that goes.

5k in the bag and Park-runs going to be a regular for me.

Next stop.......... 10k 'fun-run' although those two words do not belong in the same sentence as far as I'm concerned.

Good work, I am running 3k to 4k every other day since I started this thread, unfortunately I developed an ankle injury yesterday so may have to miss a day or two.

I was planning on running 5k this weekend but due to the ankle issue that might still be a week or two away now.

Good luck!

 

Maybe o some cycling/exercise bike to keep up the cardio without affecting the ankle

Or even swimming, could try the two arm one leg breast stroke.

Good work Hutch with the Park Run, I do want to run some, school friends go most weeks and are running regularly but I just can't do Saturday mornings which is a shame. I checked the website and it looks like they will be getting 600+ at Milton Keynes now the weathers getting better. Great events, have people running in the 15s all the way up to 50. There's a record of PBs on there and each week shows publically who had a PB and rewards for running 10 25 50 etc

Imagine how he felt when he received this message as he lay in his sick bed.

Hi Tony. End Of The Line - Tonight at 9pm

Incredible 


Great excuse to race around the Rio Hallways (past the Starbys and sticky buns) on one of those scooters this year

[I still have £25 of Fred's money, I will place it on something soon!]

Posted pre season about betting shields for the cup + league, they just made the fa vase final 6-1 on aggregate. They really are an amazing team.

No prices available?

There will be soon I guess. Would bet shields at 1/3.

Good luck with that Pads!  They're currently best priced @ 1/5 with Skye, 2/11 Betweigh and 1/6 with PP ...

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/non-league/fa-vase/winner

They should be nowhere near the final

They were losing 4-2 80 something minutes into the game when they pulled their floodlights to have the game rescheduled. This was the round of 16, my home town played them away in the quarters and we got smashed 6-1. They were very good then too

But you're a million to get anything on like this, BV had a market from the round of 32 but clean accounts couldn't get more than a £50 on win, I doubt it's much better even being in the final.



I still have £25 of Fred's money, I will place it on something soon!

4.5km in 27 minutes along a wet and muddy canal - so close! There were 5 or 6 foot bridges that had me walking over them on the way back and slowed me down as motivation was low  

Calves and feet were nearly to the point of no return and then the last 800m or so I had very strong pins and needles in my left foot - I've knackered the tendons/ligaments in the ankle 3 times and been on crutches before so I didn't want to risk rolling it trying to get the last 500m. - Have a weeks snowboarding first week of March and I don't want to cancel that!


Don't think I've ever ran 5k before so I'm happy with the quick improvement and think I will just try to get the time down for the 5k each run now rather than going further 

What's your age, height and weight?  I would't be starting running roads tbh if you are reasonably overweight due to the joint damage it could cause. 

46, 5ft10 and about 13.5 stone.

Will take a look at that couch to 5k link, cheers.

I am these exact same stats but 26 and very unfit.


The only sport or training I've done in the last 6 years, apart from golf, is ~ 20 games of 5 a side - rarely playing more than 10 minutes a time.

I really struggle with what I'd describe as something like a cramp in my feet and my calves go rock solid, it isn't as painful as cramp but I can't physically run with it, is this just a build up of lactic acid? I feel like my lungs will take me further but my legs seize up.

I started running this week, 95% effort I ran 1,5km in 7 mins 30 according to strava on the flat and I didn't fully recover for 15 minutes after. The night after I ran 2.8km in 15 mins the same route on flat concrete and recovery time was down to 5 mins feeling fresh but still put in 90% effort.

Since then I tried running on a treadmill trying for a 30minute 5km but after 1.5km my calves and feet seized completely - this didn't happen when I ran on the flat although it was getting that way. I am going to run outside again tonight after a day off yesterday to see what happens.


tl:dr

Haven't exercised in a long time - after running for 10 mins or so my feet and calves seize up, why is this and how can I stop it?

Am I trying to do too much too quick or not adequately warming up/stretching or something else?