Totally agree with you on that Tom and it grates when people casually use terms like Pikeys - it offends my sensibility and general disposition to treat people as I find them as individuals
What i was trying to clumsily articulate is that I can't think of any ethnic minority where a special and distinct site would be built to accommodate them and when you build a site like this then it's not a total surprise that some object - the alarmist language is abhorrent.
Again clumsy maybe but some of the the underlying concern is founded in people's life experiences rather than pure prejudice and when we don't accept people have genuine reasons to feel like they do we end up with situations like, well, Brexit
... Also, someone needs to explain to me why people are leaving one safe country to risk their lives to get to another safe country.
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Some of it is because they don't feel safe there
France has many times the number of asylum applications and takes in many more refugees than Britain -this coupled with the fact that many more refugees speak English compared to French might be why many feel the risk is worth getting away from the oftentimes hostile environment in France
About half of refugees also say they already have family in the UK, so there's a pull reason as well as a push reason
And that's just those that have a choice
If you pay a people smuggler on the edge of Europe to get you to safety, you might get told to get in a truck at one end and then told to get get out of the truck and onto a boat at the other end. It's the people smugglers who decide the routes
Apart from the half having family in the UK I don't have figures to show what proportion those apply to - but those seem to be the biggest factors
[ ] This flyer has caused absolute outrage amongst the woke community.
Ever so difficult to form sensible thoughts about this unless you are actually part of the community affected. On the face of it is terrible and the same as any other racism - unacceptable.
In our town recently, all the pubs closed on the day of a Gypsy funeral. That's a pretty poor reflection on the community as a whole. I'm not sure it's crazy or particularly discriminatory for a resident to take the view that the status quo is preferable to a traveller site being located nearby.
It's also hard to equate this form of (I don't know what to call it - site I suppose) to any other distinct group of people. Can't imagine the creation of a specifically African site or Asian site outside of any town in the UK. So the nearest equivalent I can think of is the development of a religious site. These are regularly brought forward for approval and objections raised.
This issue is really not about boats etc, it's just about being allowed to express yourself.
I tend to a more absolutist free speech perspective so perfectly OK for Linker to say what he wants - even if it was anti refugee in my opinion - and can't believe the BBC have turned it into a cause celebre.
I do happen to think he's way off the mark in his comparators, using Godwinsonian arguments with mention of 1930s Germany, so rather schoolboyish nonsense, but no reason to sanction him at all.
I had to spend 2 years being told what was acceptable to say, do and think during the ludicrously extended Covid piffle so I know how Gary feels.
Boat crossings and people trafficking are a blight and should be stopped for the good of all - not sure the solutions we try to find are humane, creative or really designed to solve the issue and pretty clear the Tories will never solve the issue. Will be genuinely interested to see Labour's approach after the next election.
Good read that. For any opposition fan, Fernandes is obviously really difficult to like but he's been the best player in that team over the last couple of years. You'd think people would give him a break
occasionally ? becoming more like a habit actually , since may 2021 pool have won twice at the theatre of delusions 4-2 and 5-0 , at anfield 4-0 and 7-0
and yesterday could have been far far worse if the ref had done his job anywhere near properly. could easily have ended with 9 men
liverpool been way off it this season, but utd celebrating last week like they had won the world cup showed just how far they have fallen. easiest run to the final in history to boot.
Celebrating like they had won the World Cup? Seriously? They celebrated like a team that had won their first trophy in a while. As they should.
Look, it was an awful performance that led to an awful defeat. Liverpool deserved their win. Not sure they were actually worthy of the margin, but meh every snap shot went in yesterday. xG was about 3.5.
Two games against Betis with Southampton in-between and then Fulham in the Cup before the international break. Three points plus progress in the two cups is the target, would you bet against them?
Fulham are a tough game these days but sure they'll bounce back
United definitely looking the part again. Glad we've played them twice already and hope they have a few slip ups in the next 3 months of course. Imagine they will be very competitive next year too.
Only good thing is that whatever lols I could have at the expense of United are easily diverted to superschadenfreude at Liverpool and Chelsea's expense for the time being.
Can I take this back, good lol at Man U today, come on the red men
United definitely looking the part again. Glad we've played them twice already and hope they have a few slip ups in the next 3 months of course. Imagine they will be very competitive next year too.
Only good thing is that whatever lols I could have at the expense of United are easily diverted to superschadenfreude at Liverpool and Chelsea's expense for the time being.
Glad you posted this, good to watch a bit of living history again
This popped up in the YouTube tree after I watched that one.
I must be getting old, now I'm thinking that 'those were the days'
Ha, also gave this a re-watch plus a few Late Night Pokers. Exactly me with the those were the days vibe, even those were the days before I started playing in around '03
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