[ ] George Burley does not look like an alcoholic.

I like the 4 bet.  Not sure I call with the 99 tbh.  I'd also be looking at it as a race from his perspective and do I really want to play a massive pot with 99?  Your hand needs to improve so you want to see all 5 cards so I think the 4-bet shove is optimal play here. 

Fold pre ffs.

Or more likely this guy has played you before and thought yeah, K high is good against this guy 80% of the time.

Well done to you and your lads mate.

newjapseye, lol.


as for the coaches,

THIS DRINKING SESSION WAS SANCTIONED.

It was agreed that the players could have a few beers once back in the hotel so they could chill.  But Bampot & McShagger started giving big Elvis abuse when he asked them to go to bed.  The other 4 players involved all went to bed obviously Bampot thought he has the same power at Scotland as Sir Minty Moonbeam installed in him at Rangers when he sacked a manager to keep Bampot happy.

Fold pre.  Scandies smash AA for lolaments.

If I have understood it then I think It could be mid table obscurity again.  I'm happy with my effort.  I think.

Sigh.  She fell out the boxes, found trouble at the 2nd was staying on though but damage already done and she finished 6/6.

Just sort of typified my day, I busted the Stanley early doors and then I do Cassie to win.  Also had T1-T4, T4-T1, T4-T6. 

FML!

Good luck Cassie today, running from Trap 1 in the 3.53 at Oxford.


I wont be there today, going to save the petrol money and watch the race in the bookies.


GO GO GO GO GO

  .........chances today?......a lucky fiver or the mortgage??

I like Cassie's chances today, I think she could lead get a good sit ib behind the 2 dog to the first and as long as she rails like Rookie knows she can then there is no reason why her finish won't see her get there.  I think the 4 could be the danger though. 

Racing post forecast Cassie to go off at 4/1 somehow I don't see that price lasting long

She has never trapped properly yet .... if she does she wins by 5 lengths.

Penny has to drop sometime.  I think trapping is one of those things a dog gets better with as they get the experience they start to anticipate the hare.

I think I may have confushed you with my post though, I don't think she will lead, lol well not with her previous record at the traps.  I was actuall looking at the 2 dogs times thinking i was looking at Cassies, I went back to change my post obviously i never took out the word lead.  Oops.  I do think if she at least comes out on terms and rails then she can win this one.

If she opens 4/1 I think I'll have my ma's car on her.  Logbook loans FTMFW!

Good luck Cassie today, running from Trap 1 in the 3.53 at Oxford.


I wont be there today, going to save the petrol money and watch the race in the bookies.


GO GO GO GO GO

  .........chances today?......a lucky fiver or the mortgage??

I like Cassie's chances today, I think she could lead get a good sit ib behind the 2 dog to the first and as long as she rails like Rookie knows she can then there is no reason why her finish won't see her get there.  I think the 4 could be the danger though. 

Racing post forecast Cassie to go off at 4/1 somehow I don't see that price lasting long

lol @ poker players with agents wtf!!!

Seriously what self respecting player has an agent?

All looks fine to me, it's just a case of who leads with the sets vs who c/r them. Peeling here is fine too because your hand is super disguised when you hit.

Edit - given the BB leads into the raiser, I'm moving towards the flatting camp in case the turn pairs.

I like this, keeps it simple.   I also like getting involved in pots with these type of hands.  When you hit its often disguised and you get paid often enough to make it +evs to speculate with this sort of holding. 

Especially as you have identified the villain in the hand as a nit, you can narrow his range somewhat

Deffo raising pre here, as played I probably flat the turn and access on the river. 

What a bitch, that lad wins the grand national, presumably the greatest moment of his life, and she suggests he gets his teeth fixed on national TV.

Yeah I thought that ... I would have told her to fuck right off tbh.

who told him to do that?..surely not Balding?

Yup

lol @Claire Balding giving beauty tips.

She doesn't have to worry about what you or I think about her beauty

[Move to end Barry Ferguson's Rangers career isn't brave, it's suicidalApr 5 2009 Andy Walker]

Its in todays Sunday Mail that there will be some sort of reprieve for McShagger.  Would seem that the Sunday Mail has a high ranking source at ibrox.

Not often I agree with Andy Walker, but I thought his piece in todays Sunday Mail was a decent read.


Move to end Barry Ferguson's Rangers career isn't brave, it's suicidal
Apr 5 2009 Andy Walker

I'VE heard it called a brave decision by Rangers.

Suicidal is more apt.

If you ever needed an idea of how desperate the Ibrox club are for cash the events of the last few days have crystallised everything.

In all my years in football I have never known such a gross over-reaction to two footballers guilty of a stupid mistake who followed it up with a display of childish and immature behaviour.

To suspend Barry Ferguson and Allan McGregor without pay for two weeks and effectively end their Gers careers is excessive and out of all proportion.

The club are desperate to sell any prize asset and ruthlessly exploited a delicate situation.

Two of the highest earners sold in the summer under a cloud - that'll do for starters.

In January any one of five big names could have been sold to reduce the club's crippling debt.

But nobody took the bait and this is a panic measure.

In a different era Walter Smith would never have agreed to such a ridiculous stance from his chairman.

In successful times how often did Gers fans hear "the team that drinks together wins together"?

How many scrapes did some of the nine-in-a-row side get involved in only for Smith to protect and defend them at every turn?
The bottom line is Rangers' title bid has been weakened by doing without two big-name players who can give inspirational performances.

The SFA have also looked shambolic in all of this. As manager George Burley is in charge of discipline. His choice was to leave them out of the team, a decision approved by chief executive Gordon Smith.

But president George Peat completely undermined them with his determination to have a full inquiry over both incidents.

That led to lifetime bans for the Ibrox pair - another huge over-reaction - and severely compromised Burley's authority.

And amid all the hysteria the real problem will continue to be ignored. There is a drinking culture in the British game that has been evident for years.

Our history is littered with similar exploits. The story of Jimmy Johnstone making his way back to a Largs hotel at 5am after an all-night drinking session then getting lost at sea in a rowing boat has become the stuff of legend.

Remember pictures of England stars in the dentist's chair just before Euro 96? That too resulted in mass hysteria and calls for players to be banned but boss Terry Venables stood by them.

The sad truth is the British attitude to food and drink reflects badly on us all.

Athletes guzzling pints all morning? They probably washed it down with egg and chips.

It's unacceptable. I don't say it with any pride but stories of marathon benders are commonplace at every club I've been at.

Three or four days before losing a Scottish Cup semi-final replay to Motherwell in 1991, there were plenty of Celtic players too drunk to train after an almighty boozing session. I reckon every guy I've played with has seen evidence of a drinking culture that still exists.

When I signed for Sheffield United under Howard Kendall it took my breath away how often he insisted on "bonding sessions".

It was always the same routine. We'd go to a Chinese restaurant, eat and drink as much as possible then - to roars of approval - Kendall would threaten every player with a fine of two weeks' wages if they went home sober.

To my knowledge he never went through with it but that was his way of fostering team spirit.

When I later signed for Hibs I was looking forward to playing alongside Chic Charnley but after my debut against Aberdeen I didn't see him again for four days.

He was on the lash and you can only imagine what he would have achieved in the game had he screwed the nut.

There's simply no excuse for Scotland lads going on a booze session in the middle of a World Cup qualifying campaign, least of all captain Ferguson. And their two-fingered salutes were pathetic.

One problem that could come back to haunt Smith and Burley though is inconsistency of discipline.

Half a dozen players drank heavily until the early hours yet only two were singled out for punishment.

That can't be right. And spare me the tosh about every player being a role model on how to live your life. They're footballers, nothing more.

And whether it is at club or international level, the next episode of drunkenness won't be too far away.