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2236  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: Cash Game Hand - Opinions on: August 16, 2006, 07:46:40 PM
I think you're annoyed for the fact that you would have taken the pot having seen what the other 2 had.  I think the fold is a very reasonable move(any club or the board pairing has you dead) although I think you should maybe have thought about what you would do if you're faced with a reraise before putting in the extra £30.  For me, once you put in that £30 you've got to be prepared to fire the rest in, if you werent, you couldve called and watch the blank come down on the turn, the 2 other guys were always still gonna stick it in on the turn and I think you would have too.

i cant see that calling to watch a danger card hit is a good move. if the board pairs or a club hits you (and probably rightly) will be put off. imo, push and charge em for their draws. if you are already beat fair enough, and if u get outdrawn ul.

I agree that pushing is probably the best option, but Bandit says he wasnt sure(and ultimately didnt) if he was willing to risk the bigger flush or another draw hitting.  On the flop he couldve flat called for £10 and saw the turn(which was a complete blank) but instead raised £30, if he had thought that he might fold to a reraise for his £30 then, imo, its a viable option to flat call instead.  I think if Bandit flat calls this and the blank hits the turn he'd feel safer pushing the rest in, going the extra £30 just to fold was the mistake here imo.
2237  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: Cash Game Hand - Opinions on: August 13, 2006, 07:56:13 PM
I think you're annoyed for the fact that you would have taken the pot having seen what the other 2 had.  I think the fold is a very reasonable move(any club or the board pairing has you dead) although I think you should maybe have thought about what you would do if you're faced with a reraise before putting in the extra £30.  For me, once you put in that £30 you've got to be prepared to fire the rest in, if you werent, you couldve called and watch the blank come down on the turn, the 2 other guys were always still gonna stick it in on the turn and I think you would have too.
2238  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: Tourney Hand on: August 13, 2006, 07:46:19 PM
You've got enough chips to fold this and only invested 600 which doesnt have you totally committed.  You are probably ahead to some sort of ace but, at this stage in the tourney Id say you fold and wait for a better spot.
2239  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: Do I get 50p... on: August 12, 2006, 05:33:53 PM
Suited almost connectors are great for being aggressive with, when you raise, nobody can really put you on that type of hand so you can really pull down big pots when you hit and theyre easy to get away from if you dont.
2240  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: Omaha Cash Game! on: August 10, 2006, 09:51:59 PM
Ive only just started playing PL Omaha so Im not hugely in the know....but the way Omaha is I wouldnt want to be all in pre flop with anything.  Id maybe call his reraise in the knowledge that he has a very strong starting hand.  Im not sure you would get away from it on the flop anyway.
2241  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Strategy to beat this game on: August 08, 2006, 08:59:53 PM
John made the point during the game last night that, you reach a point in this specific game where people go nuts, chase their lost money and other people use their stacks to call down anything.  The game then reaches a point where everyone has some sort of stack and there is less gambling and more poker.  If you're sitting down you need to try to ride out the gambling phase if you're not willing to gamble.  Getting people out with big hands is just a PL strategy that you may need to work on.  Sometimes just betting the pot at every possible opportunity like a fish isnt the best way to go.
2242  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Strategy to beat this game on: August 08, 2006, 08:45:03 PM
You're in here asking how to beat a 25p/50p cash game and you're calling me a fish??   pffffft
2243  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: How could I extract more money on this? on: August 05, 2006, 11:00:16 AM
I dont think you were gonna get much more out of that hand unless someone has some kind of poket pair or the T.  As you're out of position and first to act you're setting the price, I think if you bet any more than you did on the turn you lose your customer and on the river he's got you on at least a boat som you did well to get what you did out of him there.
2244  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: Cash Game Hand on: August 04, 2006, 06:50:24 PM
For once, Billy the fish is right.  I folded.  UTG+1 had a small flush draw, I dont remember what the SB had but he didnt have much, I think maybe KT offsuit.  Fergus had AK which held up to take the pot.  To rub salt in the wounds the Q paired on the turn to give me the full house and the straight draws and flush draws wouldnt have mattered.
2245  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: Cash Game Hand on: August 03, 2006, 10:37:26 PM
mjrevie is probably right, it probably is around a £300 pot.  I never counted the pot out in full at the time because I knew it was costing me all my cash to call and knew a call would be worth it for the pot and Fergus had been playing very solidly the whole game (completely opposite of his tournament play Tongue ) and No limit Id maybe have him on a high card with a weak kicker if he goes all in on the BB but a pot sized raise on the BB when he knows for sure 2 guys will call with any 2 cards just doesnt indicate anything other than a premium hand to me.  Fergus was well up for the night so I also dont think he;dbluff it pre-flop for this much witht he intention to bluff it later.
2246  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Cash Game Hand on: August 02, 2006, 06:35:21 PM
Playing a cash game, 25p/50p PL Hold em last night with about 9 players at the table and a hand something along the lines of this came up......

I have  on the Button and around £90 in my stack, before the action gets to me there is a call and a pot raise, its then folded to me and its about £2.75 to go so I reraise the pot.  SB calls and Fergus8, who had been playing semi tight but extremely aggressive, reraises the pot again on the BB.  UTG+1 calls and has been playing everyhand like a maniac since he sat down and is pretty easy to read, the original raiser folds and it costs me around £11 to go so I call.  SB calls also, he is friends with UTG+1 and although seems to be a better player and not so much of a maniac he has still been playing every hand and calling bets with very little.

Flop comes  making my set

SB is 1st to act and bets the pot, Fergus 8 reraises the pot and doesnt have much left, the next guy goes all in and its on to me.  I have about £75 left to call and its and the indications are that the guy to my left and Fergus 8 are bothing putting all their money in the middle also to make it a £200+ pot.

My read is that the guy to my left is weak, has an Ace and is looking for the T for the straight but I dont want to discount him having AT and an already made straight.  I have the other guy immediately on a flush draw and Im putting Fergus8 on a premium hand either AA, KK, or AK.

So Im up against straight draws, flush draws and possible bigger sets.  What, in your opinion, is the correct play here?  Call or fold?

If I get a few replies Ill tell you what everyone had and what happened.
2247  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy on: July 29, 2006, 11:14:32 AM
Chip Reese's chapter in Super System 1 is a great starting point.  If you're entering a pot, you want to raise on the 1st betting round and try to thin out the field, obviously the showing cards will be the main indicator of the strength of your hand.  The next round of betting should also be an exercise in thinning out the field and then you should have an indication on what type of hand/draw you have and how strong it is.  If you're flushing or on a straight draw you want to have high cards as you could also win with hitting pairs.  Try to keep an eye on what cards have been on show especially cards that could block your straight or flush.

Ive also noticed that a LOT of lower limit players online will call down to the end with nothing hoping to hit a pair so a bet at the very end can usually force a fold.

Not the best but a decent start
2248  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: hellmuth wins 10th bracelet on: July 27, 2006, 06:38:16 PM


i wonder if he is any good at the ole "hit and run" like me


on high Stakes poker there is usually little left to run with

I know he waits half an hour though.

Otherwise he gets criticised by Farha SHOUTING LIKE THIS at how BAD ETIQUETTE IT IS.

lol too true mate, he really did Bomb in that series, it was hilarious, when he tries to get up swearing and gets his mike wire tangled with his headphone wire ! quality TV
LOL, yeah, great stuff but to be fair, he made a comeback the next episode.
2249  Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: You like this laydown? on: July 20, 2006, 09:27:34 PM
So if you're reraised on the river you always fold unless you have the stone cold nuts?

I think you have to call
2250  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Blondes Newest Dad on: July 19, 2006, 06:30:28 PM
Yeah, congrats Dave
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