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106  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: March 26, 2020, 10:14:43 AM
It’s hard to believe that they only did 2355 tests yesterday. The attempts to manipulate the numbers continue to go unchallenged. They do hardly any tests, it’s pointed out to them, so Boris says we’ll do “10,000” tests every day. They keep doing hardly any tests so Boris says we’ll “25,000” tests every day, a very Trumpesque approach.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTKeK9vRxgw0KhvKxPCaDrfaHnxQP-n9TsLzsEymviY/htmlview

Yesterday we went full North Korea on the numbers. Started briefing their preferred media outlets that England had 28 deaths in the last 24 hours at the end of the press conference. Waited until midnight for the DHSC to announce these numbers are not for 24 hours, no indication of what period they did cover. What are they expecting people to think happened for the numbers to drop like that?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url=http://[url=https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20



The point being that if they want people to take instruction to lockdown seriously, then misrepresenting deaths will not help. Twitter/FB indicates that plenty of people think yesterday’s numbers mean the measures have worked and we have seen it off. We hadn’t take any measures in the relevant period other than “sing happy birthday while you wash your hands”.

Any good news?

I definitely screwed up the quoting, revealing my incompetence once again, some may view that as good news 😊. Only the top two links are still relevant, apologies for any confusion. I’m other news, my treatment will be delayed until the far side of the first C19 peak, a blow to morale but has to be the right call.

Yeah, fingers crossed with that, one of my elderly relatives has had a bad knee op cancelled, bad news for her because of lack of mobility but was always going to happen  Sad
107  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: March 26, 2020, 10:03:42 AM
It’s hard to believe that they only did 2355 tests yesterday. The attempts to manipulate the numbers continue to go unchallenged. They do hardly any tests, it’s pointed out to them, so Boris says we’ll do “10,000” tests every day. They keep doing hardly any tests so Boris says we’ll “25,000” tests every day, a very Trumpesque approach.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTKeK9vRxgw0KhvKxPCaDrfaHnxQP-n9TsLzsEymviY/htmlview

Yesterday we went full North Korea on the numbers. Started briefing their preferred media outlets that England had 28 deaths in the last 24 hours at the end of the press conference. Waited until midnight for the DHSC to announce these numbers are not for 24 hours, no indication of what period they did cover. What are they expecting people to think happened for the numbers to drop like that?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20



The point being that if they want people to take instruction to lockdown seriously, then misrepresenting deaths will not help. Twitter/FB indicates that plenty of people think yesterday’s numbers mean the measures have worked and we have seen it off. We hadn’t take any measures in the relevant period other than “sing happy birthday while you wash your hands”.

Any good news?
108  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: March 25, 2020, 09:59:58 PM
Just ordered a lump from a takeaway with as much precaution as possible getting the food in, do we think the risk is reasonable if we are avoiding touching the external packaging?
109  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: March 25, 2020, 09:57:56 PM
Day 4 of social distancing: Struck up a conversation with a spider today. Seems nice. He's a web designer.

That’s not been doing the rounds much today.....honestly  Wink
110  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Isolation/Lockdown - Ideas to pass the time on: March 24, 2020, 01:33:33 AM
I came back to this forum after vowing not to post again, but COVID-19 brought me back, because I wanted to engage with all of this that are in this together. I wanted to make a topic basically on ideas to get through the epidemic and not NOT to post opinions about it or political decisions. I want these ideas for all of us, but I want to give you an example.

My Dad turns 75 and his all life has revolved around a Working Mens Club (WMC) and when I say his whole life, I mean he visits this WMC every day, probably due to him not having a partner. He's dealt with this isolation and lockdown very well, he expected it. But his life has changed, he can't get there and he can't leave the house.

His life for many years has revolved around getting up numerous times during the day to medicate (diabetic type 1), watching morning telly, then heading out. The heading out would mean typically a little convenience store shopping, hospital appointments and putting a bet on. After that, 1.30pm onwards would mean a little TV, nap, TV, nap, out for the WMC. My dad is so well liked, everyone likes him and a night at the WMC would consist of 3/4 pints with games of bingo and cards later on (Whist, Crash, Cribb or dominoes). But now I face the problem of lack of engaging and his mind ticking over, we all need that not just older people.

But what next? He's stricken, for weeks, maybe months, to a life of waking up for nothing. It would basically be waking up with constant patterns of sleeping/TV.

Does anyone have ideas? Ideas not just for me, but also for EVERYONE. We all need this. Whilst, I am telling you about my Dad, I hope we can all ask for help and ideas here. This is going to be tough for all of us. Anyone little help, is help.

And lastly, whilst we have disagreed on many subjects such as EU membership, party politics and football, I hope we can all get through this with out families. Life is insanely difficult, people even on here even support Stoke, but we must help each other get through this. So hopefully we can help each other in this thread.

Thanks.   

We (me and my brothers) got my 87 yo mum an IPad and showed her how to FaceTime. Her ringing someone is proving tricky but she can answer a call NP after w few go’s. My bro will still take her to the supermarket as she needs.....probs once a week but we have drastically reduced personal contact with her, she seems happy enough with a few FT chats a day between us all.
111  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: March 24, 2020, 01:08:03 AM
This lockdown has come just too late and probably see supermarkets have their busiest day tomorrow. There still needs more to be done because there are still people not getting the message.

I had nipped into town today to get the essentials, the mission to get there and get straight back. Jumped on a almost empty bus and only two people on the lower deck, I didn't want to risk it so I sat upstairs where there was one more person. I sat in the middle, probably 6-8m away. Two women get on, they get on the upper deck too. They get to the top and I assume they're going to sit inbetween the front and the middle, probably 3m+ away from me and the other bloke. Nope, they going and plonk themselves on the sits beside the other bloke.

You get through town and still people don't listen. People are still queuing within 1m or even close of each other.

Shopping completed, back on the bus.

Here we are again, individuals putting themselve in danger. A woman sat bang on the front about 1.5m-2m away from the driver instead of out of harms way in other parts an almost empty bus. 10 people get on and off that bus and all have to walk past her. Stupidity.

Look at over countries, they aren't stockpiling. They are queuing and distancing like heroes. We are not.

I think there is every chance we will face it just as bad, if not worse, as Italy.

Another expert who knows the future......

I do however acknowledge some people being irresponsible pricks.

Hardly. I like some of the stuff Boris has done. But this lockdown should have been implemented at the weekend. That would surely have been the best idea?

You know shit......this was clearly advised by experts in  this field at this specific time......stop pretending you know better you don’t.......
112  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: March 24, 2020, 12:46:28 AM
This lockdown has come just too late and probably see supermarkets have their busiest day tomorrow. There still needs more to be done because there are still people not getting the message.

I had nipped into town today to get the essentials, the mission to get there and get straight back. Jumped on a almost empty bus and only two people on the lower deck, I didn't want to risk it so I sat upstairs where there was one more person. I sat in the middle, probably 6-8m away. Two women get on, they get on the upper deck too. They get to the top and I assume they're going to sit inbetween the front and the middle, probably 3m+ away from me and the other bloke. Nope, they going and plonk themselves on the sits beside the other bloke.

You get through town and still people don't listen. People are still queuing within 1m or even close of each other.

Shopping completed, back on the bus.

Here we are again, individuals putting themselve in danger. A woman sat bang on the front about 1.5m-2m away from the driver instead of out of harms way in other parts an almost empty bus. 10 people get on and off that bus and all have to walk past her. Stupidity.

Look at over countries, they aren't stockpiling. They are queuing and distancing like heroes. We are not.

I think there is every chance we will face it just as bad, if not worse, as Italy.

Another expert who knows the future......

I do however acknowledge some people being irresponsible pricks.
113  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: March 24, 2020, 12:43:21 AM
All this stuff is the right thing to do, but if you thought austerity was bad we as a country are going to be skint as fk for a decade at least..........anyone bitching about that in a couple of years and blaming it on the Tories is straight up a fking arsehole because there will be those usual pricks doing that.....

Anyone moaning once we get out the otherside of this, wants whipping with a wet towel.

Think there should be some scales for the handouts. I can probably scrape by on 1/2 salary for a few months, and won't hopefully won't need to bother asking for them.

Just sack Vegas off and my 40th trip. Shit happens, and not worth worrying about in the scheme of things.

They will be there spouting their usual bollox mate......I’ll join your towel whipping army, no danger there, can you reserve Kuku’s arse for me to personally whip please? 

40? Call! 
114  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: March 24, 2020, 12:23:20 AM
All this stuff is the right thing to do, but if you thought austerity was bad we as a country are going to be skint as fk for a decade at least..........anyone bitching about that in a couple of years and blaming it on the Tories is straight up a fking arsehole because there will be those usual pricks doing that.....
115  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: March 23, 2020, 06:23:46 PM
PM addressing the nation at 8.30pm, lockdown imminent......
116  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Which PM would have handled COVID19 best? on: March 23, 2020, 05:30:06 PM
Nobody on here is an expert about any of this, you are just random blokes with an opinion that you think you have researched that you are desperate to be proven right about, don’t try and pretend otherwise.....

ORLY?

You’d think they were by the way some rattle on about it....
117  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Which PM would have handled COVID19 best? on: March 23, 2020, 03:08:34 PM
Nobody on here is an expert about any of this, you are just random blokes with an opinion that you think you have researched that you are desperate to be proven right about, don’t try and pretend otherwise.....
118  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: March 22, 2020, 06:37:02 PM
I went up to Wollaton Park GC and played nine holes with a mate but it was pretty quiet on the course with only 15/20 cars in the car park.

I expected it to be far busier as one of the few places where you can safely get excercise and play your favourite spot/hobby.

The bar and catering are obviously closed but as long as none of the greens staff get sick hopefully things will be okay for a while.

I only heard it through a friend but apparently wollaton park was packed yesterday especially the kids play park area.

It wasn't as bad today because they've closed off the car parks to try to keep numbers down and also posted signs about social distancing.

If people can just obey that 2m rule there's probably no need for a complete lock down. Golf is a great example of a sport that is perfectly safe if played sensibly as you can go above and beyond the 2m rule very easily.



Confirmed, a pic popped up on a local FB group showing exactly that there.....
119  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: March 22, 2020, 04:16:03 PM

and now for something a bit different..does anyone have insight on whether this supposedly Sunday Times article is legit?

https://twitter.com/johnharris1969/status/1241632642581303296/photo/1


It does seem to be legit but hard to corroborate atm. It’ll be interesting to see how it develops.

It’s almost like you are hoping it to be true so you can find another reason to pile in on the Tories...
120  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: March 21, 2020, 07:51:49 PM
It is a bit weird that the number of tests dropped so much after steadily rising.

It might have been better if the announcement had been that they were aiming to test 10k a day and aiming to test 25k a day rather than saying they were 'going' to be; particularly as when Boris Johnson said we're increasing the number of tests from 10 to 25 - we hadn't even got to 10.

I dont' think there's anything manipulative or sinister going on though, I think it's just sub-standard choice of words.

My guess for the numbers is that there's some periodic technical bottleneck they reached and the numbers will go back up again (interesting if they don't though).

I have a feeling the tests will ramp up pretty soon. We've been working on an "assessment pod" in Nottingham that is almost complete and I assume will go in to action as soon as it's ready.

The specification for the unit which came direct from NHS England has drawings in it dated early Feb and was clearly a document sent out to all trusts so they've been working on this for some time.

They're just portacabins adapted for specific use obviously with segregation zones etc. There are a few modular building suppliers who will have been doing their bit delivering the buildings to trusts all over the country and then the contractors have to weigh in to get services to them.

They'll all take a similar amount of time to complete but it'll be a rolling programme. Once the first ones come on line expect the ramp up to be incredibly rapid.


There are already some up and running, I saw at least 3 the week before last on my journey around various hospitals.....
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