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61  Poker Forums / Diaries and Blogs / Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary on: March 05, 2014, 03:47:28 PM
We were discussing a bet on Fred about two fat blokes throwing pointy things at a circle hung on a wall. They call it Prermier League Darts, & we discovered a method where we could not lose.

This was my summing-up.


Darts - probability of a draw in a 12 leg game.

I think that the probability of a draw in an even match (i.e. one where both players have the same probability of holding their own throw) is:

=(POWER(ProbWin;12)+36*POWER(ProbWin;10)*POWER((1-ProbWin);2)+225*POWER(ProbWin;8 )*POWER((1-ProbWin);4)+400*POWER(ProbWin;6)*POWER((1-ProbWin);6)+225*POWER(ProbWin;4)*POWER((1-ProbWin);8 )+36*POWER(ProbWin;2)*POWER((1-ProbWin);10)+POWER((1-ProbWin);12))

(in spreadsheet formula speak) where ProbWin is the probability of a player holding his own throw.

This gives the following figures:

Prob Holding Throw              Prob Drawn Match
0.5                                         0.2256
0.55                                       0.2268
0.6                                         0.2307
0.65                                       0.2376
0.7                                         0.2484
0.75                                       0.2649



In any case, as discussed above, it assumes that the probability of holding your throw in a leg is independent of the current scoreline which seems unlikely.


I've just compared against our model and you(or whoever you stole the quote from isn't far off). You'd rarely get exactly the same hold %'s which is a factor, along with momentum. The ad break in Premier League darts used to be a big momentum killer, though it doesn't exist anymore so the players struggle to buck the trend now. We actually feel like the draw price is far too big in the market, just doesn't seem to be mathematically correct. However in a world where majority just copy the prices it doesn't look to change, so the draw is often a smidge of value on a Thursday.

Well worked out Tikay!
62  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Staking / Re: EPT Vienna +Eureka HR on: February 25, 2014, 12:26:06 PM
2.5% please, same bank details as before?
63  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Updates / Re: Sky Poker UKPC @DTD: Side Events on: February 22, 2014, 02:34:24 AM
Get it won Tony, bit odd considering I made the final but want him to win it more than me! He's just bracelet hunting...
64  Poker Forums / Live Tournament Staking / Re: Wsope Main Event on: October 17, 2013, 11:06:45 AM
2.5% please.
65  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: skypoker stratford on: March 25, 2013, 05:41:55 PM
No wonder I didn't do we'll on day 2, I looked so up for it as well... Very enjoyable competition, apart from the not winning it part for me.

Looking forward to the next one I can play.
66  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Vegas Trip Information for anyone looking to go this year. on: December 14, 2012, 04:20:26 PM
I'd have also thought the Nike shop in Caesers would now they sponsor all the teams. They had college tops last time I was there.
67  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Luton 2012 thread, powered by the same old 3-4 posters on: December 05, 2012, 06:09:29 PM
I have a slot, one day turbo suits me so I'm in. I managed to buyin on the skypoker site.

See you on Saturday.
68  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Luton 2012 thread, powered by the same old 3-4 posters on: July 20, 2012, 01:37:41 PM
What is on tonight please, I might try and make the journey.
69  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Luton Fantasy League 2012 on: March 21, 2012, 11:45:42 AM
What is on tonight please? I might pop along...
70  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Blondes at SPT Luton!!!! on: January 24, 2012, 08:56:37 PM
What are the times for Saturday and Sunday please? I think I'll find out on Friday if I can attend... Might need your help Tony!

Try & get there big man, it will make Vinni & Tighty look athletic.

Might see you @ ICE tomorrow, when I gather you are meeting with representatives from the UK's greatest bookmaker.

Less of the cheek if I see you tomorrow...

I'm odds on to play at the weekend, odds against to make the first break.
71  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Blondes at SPT Luton!!!! on: January 24, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
What are the times for Saturday and Sunday please? I think I'll find out on Friday if I can attend... Might need your help Tony!
72  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Vegas Trip Information for anyone looking to go this year. on: January 15, 2012, 01:38:57 PM
I don't know about the Luxor, but there is a lot of public wifi on the strip so it wouldn't necessarily matter either way

That is what I've said to them. I've had Wi-Fi in most rooms in Vegas, though they all still have the ethernet cable in the rooms. You have to pay the resort fee, that includes the internet so if it is there they'll get it. It's the first time they've been, not gamblers but will go to shows meals etc and look at the sites. Fingers crossed they like it, my Sister and I have been telling them to go.
73  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Vegas Trip Information for anyone looking to go this year. on: January 15, 2012, 01:12:30 PM
Quick question... Hopefully someone knows. Does the Luxor have Wi-Fi in their rooms? My Mum and Dad are going tomorrow and wondered whether they should take the iPad.

Google/Trip Advisor seems to suggest no, though wondered if anyone has stayed there recently?
74  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Black Friday and the aftermath: Online Poker Implications on: September 29, 2011, 05:25:25 PM
There is only one reason they have taken this action, so they can wash their hands of the mess they let it get into!

Quote
Unresolved
claims by players against FTP become a matter for the police and civil authorities. Now that
FTP’s licences have been revoked, AGCC no longer has jurisdiction over these companies.

I don't understand how they can regulate a company and protect the players, then when it goes tits up revoke the license and just ignore what happened during their tenure as the regulator.

75  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: NFL Betting blog on: September 06, 2011, 11:03:29 PM
Been on Houston for a while, NFL guys love them.

My aim is to be on the 1st touchdown Yankee we get home at work... Missed last years!
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