Will take 5%, will send by bank transfer if you can pm details at some point

Will have 1%

I personally think they need to change the whole Aintree race meeting. 2011 and killing horses for entertainment. Nothing is right about that.

If you fancy a change of career, I think you'd fly through an interview at the Daily Mail. People enjoying the event + some horses dying = people killing horses for entertainment. You can start as editor on Monday.

Have played 30 normals, not sure whether I was sticking or twisting but either really, don't mind. Suspect it won't matter anyway unless a few people play some games..! If I play enough games for ten people, will that do to make the promotion run..?

Congratulations both, sounds great. Look forward to hearing more about it.

0.25% please

Have sent on Stars.

pretty redic i have applied for the opening ceramony one as this should be incred price difference are redic tho

I wouldn't go to the opening or closing ceremonies if they were free and on in Darlington!

y not

Why would you want to see a load of athletes walking round the track NOT competing?

Boris Johnson, Seb Coe, The Queen, Mick Hucknall singing the National Anthem.

Hell, I'd pay good money NOT to attend.

Why would anyone rather see a load of singing, dancing and stuff rather than Usain Bolt winning the 100m?

Mick Hucknall is singing the national anthem?  Please tell me this is a joke.  Please....

With Boris Johnson, Seb Coe and the Queen? Please tell me this is true, please...

Might be able to play, password please

Harsh on those old wounds, but a lovely bump.

I wouldn't be shoving this. I don't think you really gain any fold equity vs regs from the fact that you're shoving UTG into 5 players, as you see quite a few regs doing this as a standard play when down to about 5bbs as here, so I think you get called wide-ish. Would probably prefer slightly to shove this from UTG+1 into regs in the blinds as obviously you've got one fewer to get through but also because it doesn't reek so much of desperation. That said, stacks couldn't really be much better for it, but I'd still say it's a fold. J7 suited maybe. Taking the big blind doesn't really put you out of touch with the field either.

Edit: Wiz reckons shoving J6o gives you equity of maybe 12-13% (if you tighten up its calling ranges reasonably, though I don't know how much you should tighten up the range of 'good reg' in the BB as calling and winning gives him a great situation on the bubble). Folding gives you 15.7%, though this is presumably much less accurate as it isn't taking sufficiently into account the big blind next hand, which has much more impact if you've folded than if you've shoved, when you've either got more chips or are out.

However, if you assume that you fold and get dealt QT in the BB and get shoved on from the button, say, and can't profitably call, then your equity will then still be 12.5% without the same impending positional disadvantage as you had in the last hand (and obviously with some upside from the possibility that someone else gets knocked out in the meantime). Shoving J8 suited (or 78 suited) from UTG gives you about 1% more equity than J6o, so starts to look profitable, though take away a little for the impact of the big blind next hand when you're still in and the possibility of knockouts elsewhere and I'd guess it's still pretty close. (If you shoved and won the blinds here for example I think you'd have about 19% equity for a millisecond in-between hands, as it were, but that obviously falls once you have to post your big blind, and falls to about 17% if you fold that big blind.)

So even if we say that shoving J8 suited gives us average equity of 14% for that millisecond between hands, the fact of having to post the big blind is going to drop that back to somewhere around or a bit below the 12.5% mark, roughly where we would have been if we'd just folded it.

Maybe too many assumptions there to make a great deal of sense in the end, and apologies if I've made mistakes, and it was all to suggest that if you've got a bit better than J6o then it's probably kind of close and go with your feel, but if you've actually got J6o here then I wouldn't be shoving it.

Be great if he was unbanned, I'm sure pretty much everyone wants to see him back.

[And presumably they'd have to give you the cash to buy in to the main event at some point, standing by the cashier, don't they..?]

The "no cash alternative" is kind of interesting - because "no alternative" to what..?

I suppose if Sky or whoever else wanted to be really hard-nosed about it they could try to take you to Vegas and then spend the rest of the £10k on stuff for you that you don't want. But I don't imagine they'd do that... And presumably they'd have to give you the cash to buy in to the main event at some point, standing by the cashier, don't they..? So the "no cash alternative", to the buy-in element of the prize at least, doesn't really stand up, does it..?

sky can buy people in direct as part of their licence

your point stands for the cash that's given back once everything else has been bought and paid for though

Ah yes, missed that, ta.

So, if you don't sign the contract, we don't book the flight or Hotel........

I don't get this. you advertise a £10k vegas package, someone wins it but doesn't sign a contract agreeing to sky's terms in a tournament that wasn't even mentioned in the advertising so you don't give them the prize? or have I missed something there?

Its in the t&c's

These T&C's you mean?

Terms and Conditions

- By taking part in one of the Sky Poker Qualifying Tournaments you have the opportunity of winning a trip to Las Vegas worth £10,000 (although please note that parts are the Viva Las Vegas Prize Package are subject to further terms and conditions).

...

- Parts of the Package awarded are subject to you entering into a Letter of Agreement with Sky Poker. This will be communicated with you if you are awarded a Viva Las Vegas Prize Package.

So when you enter this tournament you are bound by some terms and conditions which aren't even stated - if they are stated these 'further terms and conditions' are very difficult to find.

And you're bound to enter into a Letter of Agreement with Sky Poker - without being told what it will include?

The most diplomatic way I could put this is - it's all a bit corporate, isn't it?

Well I'm pretty sure you can't contract someone to further unspecified terms and conditions, or conditions in a future letter of agreement the terms of which aren't revealed. And obviously terms and conditions that bind you to buying into the main event can't be revealed, as the entry to the main event can't be advertised.

The "no cash alternative" is kind of interesting - because "no alternative" to what..?

I suppose if Sky or whoever else wanted to be really hard-nosed about it they could try to take you to Vegas and then spend the rest of the £10k on stuff for you that you don't want. But I don't imagine they'd do that... And presumably they'd have to give you the cash to buy in to the main event at some point, standing by the cashier, don't they..? So the "no cash alternative", to the buy-in element of the prize at least, doesn't really stand up, does it..?

Imagine this is incredibly complex and a nightmare for the poker sites from a legal point of view. Interesting though...

OK, well, pleased to report that we managed a miniscule profit in the end - came 5th of 141 in the €150 for €1406, so having broken even in the €200 by not playing it that gives a total return of €1606. Shame we couldn't find the final table double-up that might have given us a proper shot, but better than nothing I guess...

If those who sent by bank transfer could pm me their bank details, I'll send back asap.

Thanks again for the stakes, appreciated.

Thanks for the gls, but I'm afraid they were insufficient. Gone with just over 100 left, damage mostly done with AQ behind a mini stack's shove, ran into KK behind. The last few k went in with KJ and a nice overlay vs AQ. Exit made a little less painful by the fact that I no longer have to be dealt to by dealers too inexperienced and slow to be let loose on a tenner rebuy, but still, sorry the news isn't better. Fingers crossed we can get out of it in the 150 tomorrow...! Cheers all.