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16  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 21, 2016, 03:32:35 PM
"For what it's worth I can't help but think Corbyn get's bad press for no other reason that the media are fearful of him, because he actually does support real change and that is what is needed.  The current system doesn't work, indeed it probably never has but we just accept it. "

What policies does Corbyn bring to the table that create "real change".  If it's just old fashioned socialism then it has been tried before.  I think the media focus on Corbyn because he's box office in a car crash way.  Constantly making headlines of the wrong sort.

I agree the current system isn't working well, but that's to do with globalisation in my opinion.  Tax havens.  Outsourcing of jobs to low wage economies.   Tax avoidance.  Multinational companies having Government over a barrel leading to the ludicrous situation where tax credits subsidise corporates paying low wages.

These can be fixed under capitalism to a certain extent.  Politicians just need to do their jobs.  But that brings us to your point about poor weak politicians which I also agree with.

Good post
17  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 21, 2016, 03:31:19 PM
Supremacist is a pretty charged word. I'll assume you didn't mean it to sounds as harsh as it comes across.

My answers

1. Nobody has a right to them. I think the current consensus is less not more though.

2. As said above it changes. The enemies now are in some ways less mythical than the cold war.

3. Yep

4. Not really a question, more a statement. But I don't think the latter bit is supported factually by the former bit. One doesn't lead to the other.
18  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Oscars kerfuffle. on: January 21, 2016, 01:26:18 PM
Tricky one really. About 15% of the US population is black and a similar number in the UK, it we assume that US and UK make up most of the Oscar nominees, then black actors have certainly been underrepresented for the last two years.

However, the movie business is about as subjective as it gets, it might just be that the standout roles over a small sample have been white actors. The Idris Elba film was Netflix only (I think), the Will Smith film was controversial because it was supposed to be an expose on the poor safety practices of the NFL but was edited to glorify the NFL after objections by ESPN and the Creed movie is just a Rocky movie after all. None of those particular movies seem Oscar worthy (Straight Outta Compton I have no idea about).

If there is a problem, I'd guess it was more about the availability of good Oscar worthy parts in the movies in the first place for black actors.

I bet the Oscar board go overboard to overcompensate next year though (And I like my bet on Eddie Redmayne for best actor Oscar even more now because he played a transgender role and that is the other big political hot potatoe this year).

Erm, no.

UK black population is less than 5% I believe.

America is very different to the UK. It's still a very divided country and racism is a huge issue at the moment. And there persists a sense that non-white people have to be exceptional to be recognised. White actors don't.
19  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 21, 2016, 01:16:42 PM
As far as I can make out Japan's self defence is the equivalent of someone self-excluding themselves from a load of online casinos.

"We can't trust ourselves lads..."
20  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 21, 2016, 01:15:07 PM
I don't honestly know the proper answers to either.

Switzerland has been neutral for 200 years I believe, and has maintained it by being useful to all sides and being careful not to piss anyone off really. It does have an army, and a navy despite having no coast, but again it's for self defence.

Japan's self defence army was introduced after WW2, although interestingly was recently amended so that it could help out "allies" in other conflicts where it was seen to be strategically important to do so.

Complex world we live in.
21  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 21, 2016, 12:35:53 PM
Barry - There is far more than one approach to foreign relations. Japan and Switzerland are two obvious examples. You can hardly say the current way of doing things is particularly effective. Falklands is an incredibly emotive topic, as many people know people who served and/or died in that war. But I find it hard to say that some form of negotiations over their sovereignty wouldn't be at least sensible. Same with many of Corbyn's points. He's saying there is more than one way of looking at this. And, quite often, he's right.

My comments have not been in relation to the Falklands, I don't particularly have a dog in that fight. In fact, for the most part my comments have been on security within Britain, not foreign policy (I appreciate the two are very closely linked). It's specifically the 'not pressing nuclear button even if we had it' and the 'police shoot to kill' comments so soon after Paris that I object to with Corbyn. The first one being simply a huge balls up in terms of game theory, the second one being horrifying to me given Britain is a big terror target. I don't know much about Japan or Switzerland in that respect if that's what you meant?

I have a feeling we might be juggling and confusing a few issues at this stage, apologies if so.



Yeah sorry, that was my fault. Two separate issues, should have used a new paragraph.

Japan has an army that can only act in self defence. Switzerland has long been neutral. Just two examples of alternative approaches.

Falklands was just a separate issue.
22  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 21, 2016, 11:48:59 AM
Tighty - Agreed. I meant it was generous to suggest Cameron was being as sophisticated in his reasoning as Jon was. I think he's going for maximum scare factor.

Barry - There is far more than one approach to foreign relations. Japan and Switzerland are two obvious examples. You can hardly say the current way of doing things is particularly effective. Falklands is an incredibly emotive topic, as many people know people who served and/or died in that war. But I find it hard to say that some form of negotiations over their sovereignty wouldn't be at least sensible. Same with many of Corbyn's points. He's saying there is more than one way of looking at this. And, quite often, he's right.

And I say that very much not as a Corbyn supporter. I'm not one.
23  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 21, 2016, 11:45:28 AM
Cameron has been successful in having attention diverted from his government's programme to the detail of what is happening inside the Labour Party. Tighty has pointed out several times that time spent on the ins and outs of the Labour Party is time not spent holding the government to account.

Or, as Isabel Hardman of The Spectator put it today:

‏@IsabelHardman
"Every Commons session I've sat in on this week has seen MPs across House uniting to knock stuffing out of Labour. Including Labour MPs....which is interesting, but does mean Cameron could announce he'll spend entire NHS budget on building a Death Star without opprobrium."



This strategy may be appealing, but getting behind Corbyn is a losing strategy too.  As he can't be deposed because of the new make up of the party, it is a genuine Hobson's choice situation for those that remain in the Party.  

There is a mini-market shop near me called Hobson's Choice.

24  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 21, 2016, 11:13:20 AM
Yeah I think that's a fair point Jon. His view on what is correct for the nation's long-term security is different to Cameron's. But I think it's rather generous to suggest that's the image David Cameron is trying to draw in voters minds.
25  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 21, 2016, 11:05:36 AM
But surely Cameron doesn't really think it's true? "A threat to national security."

I do think he thinks that is true. Pretty certain there are folks in this thread who think it's true. I think it's true.

Really? That surprises me.

As to Cameron, I think he's the most cynical PM we've ever had. I'm not sure he truly believes anything. He flat out lied and wilfully misrepresented things he can't possibly have thought to be true throughout the election campaign without breaking stride.
26  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 19, 2016, 02:21:56 PM
Yes I believe so. But there needs to be a dialogue. Simply telling people to work more for less money is not constructive. And the misinformation put out about the lack of a 24/7 NHS, for example, is ridiculous.

But that's not really the problem I was referring to.
27  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 19, 2016, 01:37:54 PM
I think the cross party letter from the ex health secretaries calling for common agreement on health and care makes perfect sense.

To be fair, there is more money than ever going into health - £8.4bn above inflation by 2020.

I think whoever is in power there will have to be more funding going forwards but there also has to be an acceptance that the NHS has to develop and change to cope with the demands it will face.



I agree. And so does everyone I know who works in the NHS. But there is no debate, or even information on what's happening from the current lot. Five more years of it and I'm not sure what is left will really resemble an NHS at all.
28  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: January 19, 2016, 11:51:05 AM
The NHS strike really shouldn't even be a political issue. I'm quite certain a large number of Tory voters would be appalled at some of the changes if they were presented neutrally. Some would welcome them with open arms of course.

It's not a right wing/left wing issue, it's a significant ideological change to the nature of healthcare provision in this country and most people are unaware of the consequences.

All they see is a tired, battered NHS with long queues at A&E and moody rushed GPs and assume the government are fixing it. They aren't. They are trying to fundamentally change it by saying the current system is broken.
29  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: GPL announces 12 franchise teams/managers for its first season on: January 19, 2016, 10:16:45 AM
I hope it works.  Poker needs something new.

Was watching a load of the old poker shows recently.  While most were turbo SnGs, at least they were being made and they tried. 

When did Late Night Poker last have a series?

One thing that annoys me about this is using the word franchise, as if Boris Johnson went out to Malta to bid to have a London team.

It's very much being made for an American audience, so they are using the language of American sports.
30  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: GPL announces 12 franchise teams/managers for its first season on: January 19, 2016, 10:03:06 AM
I've gone from absolutely hating this idea to quite liking it. It's really all going to be in the execution and I'm not totally convinced on that yet. Trying to create legitimate sustainable poker "stars" for a new generation and using a bunch of last generations increasingly irrelevant stars to front it seems a weird idea to me. I get that they are managers and not players though so maybe that will work.
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