check raise all in. You've got outs

Tell him to come to the HU tables on blonde, i will gladly play him. Warn him that his leads might get raised though!

But like Jezza posted, if he leads out hit or miss then you wont know when he has it or not. and also as jezza points out it will cost you more to find out than it does for the 1st bettor.


the tank:

I have this situation in mind for unraised pots for eg SB v BB where its called then checked. Because 2 random hands are just as likely to miss the flop whereas if the opp raised pre it may indicate a good/made hand which will be moee likely to be ther better hand post flop.

was discussing this the other day with a mate.

he was arguing that being 'in position' is not, contrary to popular belief, necessarily the best position to be in.

As we know, most hands miss most flops - you will hit a flop 1 time in 3 i believe. So imagine the situation where you are in a heads up pot and you have both missed the flop. Now, conventional thinking says that it is better to be in position here because the first player will usually just check when they miss the flop and a bet by you in position can pick up the pot.

But my friends argument was that his position of being first to act can and should be used to bet first - the player acting last by definition obviously cannot bet first.

He argued that the player first to act in a heads up pot should never check but bet out. This way it is him who will pick up all the pots in which both players have missed the flop and because this player is first to act gives him the opportunity/advantage to bet out first and do so.

The most obvious example of the situation is SB v BB. My friend argues that the SB has the positional advantage for the reasons above.


When he first said that 'position is bollocks, its better to be out of position' i laughed at him. But when he presented his case as above i had to think twice.

Thoughts? Is my pal right?

[on the button]

Had pretty much this exact same hand yesterday except i raised and was re-raised by a guy on the button. I re-raised again and he called. I pushed on a flop of 883 (i was pushing any flop) and got called by his TT.

So they not always gonna fold their JJ, AK etc.

Supa, Mrs Lime, you guys probably think I overplayed my QQ here?

On the button makes a big difference. The only problem with your play here imo is that you have told the guy you have a big pair, thankfully he was too stupid to listen.

how can u not tell him this? I think the only way to play QQ is to 3bet preflop if you are raised. if he raises you again u have to fold

Had pretty much this exact same hand yesterday except i raised and was re-raised by a guy on the button. I re-raised again and he called. I pushed on a flop of 883 (i was pushing any flop) and got called by his TT.

So they not always gonna fold their JJ, AK etc.

Supa, Mrs Lime, you guys probably think I overplayed my QQ here?

thanks, I was distracted by thoughts of loose nuns and misread for an up and down draw

I think simply passing is a better move here

Come on AJ suited? Its at the very least worth a limp here! Passing has got to be out of the question.

So what happened Snoop, cmon we need closure!?

Unless he has the Queen he can not call a bet here.

Nah course he can. What is just as important as what we put the villain on is what we think he puts us on. From our betting its not unreasonable to think he puts us on exactly what we have in which case he can call with his top pair/2 pair quite confidently. The only conceivable hand in which we would have a queen is QT, although top pair on the flop would likely bet bigger to price out the draws available so this is not that believable either.

Sorry, stacks are about 3k a piece. U have him covered by a couple hundred

Both wrong I'm afraid.

I won't beat around the bush cos you're not going to get it. I folded and he turned over 6-3 off to take the pot down.

Work that one out...

I was closest I said he could have had 2 pair (i said 76)! Must be enough for half the money!?

Another tough hand!

Maybe he has a set or 76 and moves in to price out a flush draw.
Perhaps he flopped the straight but the only hands I can see u beating here are 88 and 99. So i probably fold it

Did you call?

hard laydown but i dont think he raises on the river with anything that you can beat...

what did he have?

any particular reason?

Live hand

blinds are 25-50. One limper, SB calls. You are in the BB with  and check.

Flop comes       . SB checks, you check and limper checks.

Turn is   


both blinds check, limper bets 150 and only you call.

River is   

You are first to act. What do you do?
a) check/call
b) check/fold
c) put out a block bet of ~ half the pot
d) bet big looking to take it down now - ie at least pot size bet

e) other, please state


Thanks people

Blind or not, what would be his thinking be in pushing all in, when previously he had been beaten by you on the streets? I see it as a statement of strength

LOL!