Still quite a few thousand at every game! If I were your brother you'd be too young to remember 1988 too as my sister was born in 1986...

sick rubs itt   I was only about 2.

You can remember stuff from when you were 2? Fair enough then - maybe you are my sister...!

actually I can remember a fair bit of stuff from when I was 2.  sadly that was in 1978 though - seem to have dropped a digit before

Although my sister isn't into Wimbledon at all, and as far as I know doesn't like New Order or Housemartins, so sounds like you have better taste 

Still quite a few thousand at every game! If I were your brother you'd be too young to remember 1988 too as my sister was born in 1986...

sick rubs itt   I was only about 2.

You can remember stuff from when you were 2? Fair enough then - maybe you are my sister...!

Still quite a few thousand at every game! If I were your brother you'd be too young to remember 1988 too as my sister was born in 1986...

I think I might love superwomble.  Housemartins + blue Monday = winner winner.  If the womble is some kind of reference to the mighty dons then I'm sold.  are you single?

ps i'm a bit drunk.

confirmed dons fan.

Get yer coat uve pulled

ha.  i'm not that drunk - i know you like some northern team or other.  and you're too young to reminisce about the glory days of 1988

1988 - what a great year

I think I might love superwomble.  Housemartins + blue Monday = winner winner.  If the womble is some kind of reference to the mighty dons then I'm sold.  are you single?

ps i'm a bit drunk.

Womble is indeed due to my, some might say, obsession with Wimbledon yes! Not so obsessive that I don't have time for some classic choons though!

wp winner. Not a great result for me but don't think I did toooo bad for my first time....

superwomble = legend

lets av it

I thang yow!

I think the call is fine. He could easily be bluffing a missed draw, or could have a weaker J or weaker pair. You have shown weakness by checking the river, which under-reps your hand somewhat, and he could easily be thinking you have missed your flush draw with something like  or  .

In.

Just found this link in my favourites: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4010137.stm

AFC Wimbledon set a new English senior record after a 1-1 Ryman Division One draw at Bromley saw them extend their unbeaten league run to 76 games.

I was at that game, superb goal from Ursell to equalise. I was also at the game 3 matches later which ended the unbeaten run at 78 games - think that could stand for a very long time

That is superb!

This is my fave though:

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/3286313/pmpy

Noel Blake playing for Portsmouth vs Wimbledon in the 80s. Wimbledon score, then score again without even touching the ball!

you're in the BB?

FOLD PREFLOP.

why are we taking a bad hand oop "down the streets" with no info on our villain folllllllld

This for me I'm afraid.

wtf he has 8% 3bet its not like he has qq + here,

I understand this, but what should we then do post flop, we have position and if the flop comes three under cards I assume we call? Where do we go from there. I lose lot's of money in these types of situation (and many others).

this is one of the more favourable outcomes of the hand. if the flop comes low low low then my default line readless would be to just call call call. can't really go wrong there.

if it comes Q/K/A high, i'm always calling at least the first barrel. Re-evaluating on the turn if he fires again, depending on the card, our reads. He's 3betting 8%, that's very wide from the sb. He'll barrel most flops, but most ppl shutdown if called on the flop. I.e. he 3bets the K9suited it comes ace high, he thinks that's a good card to barrel, you call, he thinks, oh shit you've got an ace, better give up.

some ppl will be harder to play postflop, and vs these, especially with the 8% 3b stat, I'd be 4b/getting it in vs them as its more profitable than playing the streets if you're not confident post / think he's gonna own you.

so vs an unknown, its close between 4b/calling and peeling IP, never folding obv, and if i decide to peel, not folding to a cbet on most boards, except AKx KQx AQx AKQ.

Sigh - sometime I think I understand this game a little bit then I read an answer like that and realize I am still a noob. I did not think this could ever be a 4-bet (if I was playing the hand it would not enter my head) but yeah, I guess it is.

This.

Lots of good input here, thanks all.

This will be my first sheep quiz  Baa!

Bully, Villain was 20/18, plus his 3bet from SB is only 8%. This leads me to worry I am already crushed.

If we call, what's our plan on various flops, assuming a J doesn't come?