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Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: Donk bets
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on: December 13, 2011, 04:12:19 PM
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Yeah I realise this and the draws thread are a bit vague, as I said in the draws one, but they were meant as a start of a discussion about how players look at donk bets or how people tend to play draws, without any specific hands being involved.
It's interesting that zerofive says that donk bets are rarely bluffs, because this was the viewpoint I was leaning towards, but as I mentioned I have read a few people recently claiming that donk bets are usually weak.
The point SuuPRlim makes about players wanting to C/R good hands instead of donk them is a good one I think though.
Thanks for the replies so far, all viewpoints can be interesting!
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Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: Line Check - Folding Set of Jacks
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on: December 13, 2011, 12:57:20 PM
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Some interesting comments on this hand. I think I'd have had to fold. I saw it mentioned that calling is correct as it's micro and people spaz out, but a massive overbet like this always seems to be the nuts according to hands I have seen that play out like this.
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Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Re: Donk bets
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on: December 13, 2011, 12:15:23 PM
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OK thanks for moving them. I assumed they shouldn't go in PHA as they were general poker topics rather than hand analysis but I am new here :-)
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Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / JJ facing 3bet pre
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on: December 13, 2011, 12:14:19 PM
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Villain seems to be an aggressive winning player - up 21.46 bb/100 over 3.4k hands. Stats of 20/18/8.7/45%, 3bet from SB only 8% though. Cbet 74% with a fold to raise of 88% from 16 hands. BetFred No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (6 handed) BB ($19.82) UTG ($21.27) Hero (MP) ($19.68 ) CO ($25.34) Button ($14.01) Villain (SB) ($47.14) Preflop: Hero is MP with , 1 fold, Hero bets $0.60, 2 folds, Villain raises $2.40, 1 fold, Hero ?
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Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / Donk bets
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on: December 13, 2011, 12:01:00 PM
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I've read a number of people recently saying that a donk bet on the flop is almost always a bluff, but I haven't noticed this at my levels.
What are your opinions on donk bets?
Also, how about if someone calls your flop c-bet, then donks the turn?
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Poker Forums / Poker Hand Analysis / How do you play draws?
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on: December 13, 2011, 11:34:40 AM
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Do you have a 'default' line that you take when you flop/turn a straight/flush draw? 'Default' in that it is obviously subject to reads/stats that make you deviate from it, but that you will use as standard. And following on, what sort of stats do you take into account when deviating from your default line, and how do they make you deviate?
I'm having a think about my game and I'm worried I'm too passive when it comes to these spots - I think I probably check them too much, but then if I bet is the value I get when opponents fold, or call and I hit, outweighed by those times when I am called and miss, or am raised?
Bit vague I know but hopefully it's a starting point for a discussion. I intend to analyse my hands and look at how I play and what my results are looking like so will come back with them at some point.
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