i could do with a blonde....

OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Genting too as i discovered a few weeks ago. Perhaps they are all correct with that ruling. Much pondering to be done before the rules meeting next week
Not

Yogi

Really? ....which one?

Riverlights Im afraid to say Rich

If thats the rules then yeah thats the ruling.


Lovely rule. Alea has the same rule as Gala?? SWEEEEEEEEET!!!!

Genting too as i discovered a few weeks ago. Perhaps they are all correct with that ruling. Much pondering to be done before the rules meeting next week
Not

Yogi

Play it yourself, grind a win, be a grinder no more!!!!!

I'll be there everyday as always. But this time with a little bit of a difference............................

Ill be in during the daytime instead of crawling in at 7pm every day.


First time in well over a year Im sure...

Yogi

Finally recognition for my comedy genius

Yogi

Bad JuJu is the place Dan. Beach Bucket cocktails.

They was talk of them doing one in a Treasure chest as well. Who knows.

Yogi

[a few things though that niggled]

I've not been to DTD much recently but went last night to support the GP, and bagged myself a seat in the process (brag)

There's a few things though that niggled me so I thought i'd offer the following constructive criticism.

1) Tables were 10-handed. This is really uncomfortable and I felt like I had no breathing room. Especially when Girgy got moved next to me They used to be 9 handed. Why the change? Even if it was just for the GP we only started with like 6 or 7 tables and loads of dealers sat around doing nothing. I played the last GP and they were 10-handed, presumably so you could get as many players in as possible, but that wasn't the case here.

2) Chip stacks! I remember the good old days where DTD left you with mountains of chips. Now you chip up at every possible oppurtunity and it saddens me

The next two are ruling related so prob of interest to dik9

3) Action was on a player and he said "pot". Obviously this is nonsense in no limit. But the dealer didn't know how to handle it. So she called the floor. Fair enough. The ruling though... the player is made to check. Eh? He clearly intended to bet. Why is he being made to check? Ruling should be "you can't bet the pot as we can't count it. please pick a number". He definitely shouldn't be made to check. Could easily be used as an angle shoot too. If I want to see a free card I can just say "pot" knowing it looks like I want to bet big but I'll be made to check.

4) Dealer deals flop before big blind has checked. The flop is pulled away but the turn and river are dealt face down. The flop is then reshuffled and dealed. I don't like this. The whole board should be reshuffled. I don't care about "preserving the integrity" of what would come. They're just random cards. But in this situation they're no longer random cards. They're cards that are specifically not one of the 3 cards we have just seen. Now all players have this information but it's going to change the dynamic of the hand and that isn't on. Also, one of the reasons we have burn cards is so if cards are marked we can't see them before they're dealt. Placing the turn/river face down on the table completely negates this fact.

Hopefully that doesn't come across as my usual moaning

Only a few things? Will wonders never cease?

I would say come visit me in Nottingham. But i will be on a small island in the Indian Ocean on one of the 63 beaches.

Hope you enjoy whichever you decide to do tho.

Yogi

I honestly thought the GAGA that was tall and in a cape at the back was gonna be Helmuth.

Now that then WOULD have then been worth wasting 7 minutes of my life to watch. Unlike that pile of steaming  ****

Yogi

Doubleup,is there a reason why every single one of your posts is aggressive/argumentative ??

Its the internet ffs its designed for arguing.

LOL

 
 At least next time I'm asked the question, I'll have the correct answer. 

What correct answer?

What ppl think should happen at DtD or what ppl think should happen generally or what ppl think should happen in this particular (non-malicious) situation.

These are the exposed card scenarios

cards exposed accidentally multiway with action pending in a betting round

cards exposed accidentally multiway with action finished in a betting round

cards exposed deliberately multiway with action pending in a betting round

cards exposed deliberately multiway with action finished in a betting round

cards exposed accidentally heads-up with action pending in a betting round

cards exposed accidentally heads-up with action finished in a betting round

cards exposed deliberately heads-up with action pending in a betting round

cards exposed deliberately heads-up with action finished in a betting round


Should there be a distinction between deliberate and accidental?  It is obviously difficult for a TD to know a players motivation so the only consideration should be whether any advantage has been gained by the player and how to nullify this advantage.

The only situations imo where it is advantageous to expose cards are:

on the river facing a bet and trying to get some reaction from an opponent (a bit dubious but some say it can be done). 

on or close to the bubble of a tournament (in reality probably only a satellite) where a player considers that his $equity if called is quite close to the $equity if not called.  eg he has AA and an opponent in the bb would be getting 3-1 on a call.

It is really only the latter situation that needs strong action and an away from the table penalty should be enough,  all other card exposures can be warnings but obviously stronger action for persistent offenders.

i do believe that is your post Double Up. Think you are saying that a TD may have problems determining intent. Also several different situations. i may be mistaken of course. Perhaps you should all think of what you think should be FAIR for EVERYONE. Not just what you all think should happen if it happens to you.

Yogi 
 
 

[WILL]

Why can the ruling not be the same every single time.

It shouldn't matter how new the player is at the game, or if they are pulling a stroke, or someone else at the table is pulling a stroke.

Surely the simplest and easiest rule that penalises no-one except the person that shows their cards is.....

HAND IS LIVE. ALL ACTIONS ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PLAYER. THEY WILL BE PENALISED AFTER THE HAND.Standard 1 round of the table. Further violations by the same offender can be treated more harshly. Of course if the TD thinks the whole situation stinks, why not make it a more severe penalty.

Why have different rules for different situations. Surely you are asking for trouble if there are 10 different rulings for 10 different situations. Facing a bet not facing a bet etc.etc.etc. Also asking the TD to know the players mindset, abilities etc to make different rulings is asking for trouble.

Yogi

Can I answer as well.

PLEASE DIKKY9. LET ME LET ME.

Hand is live. All actions are available to the player. Penalty will be given at the end of the hand.

Not too difficult is it? Requires no thought process at all. Dead simple. Black and white.

Did i get it right Mr Richard???

Yogi