One thing which hasn't been mentioned yet, is how chipped up is the BB, if you just flat is he likely to squeeze ?

imo raise to 40K. Its large enough to let him know you have a decent hand and to hoefully remove curiousity of him seeing a flop, if he comes back over the top, well you'll just have to let it go.

Thanks for the tips, I'll take a look at the sngwizard and see if it helps.

Cheers

Thanks for responding Gribbo, some good points there

Thanks for responding Tank. Reading back I don't think I composed my question very clearly.

I understand that its better to be first into the pot and in a late position ( although I recently made a major mistake pushing utg with approx 14 BB thinking I could pick up the 2.5 BB in the middle as I would look pretty strong, only to run into AA ) but at what point do you think it becomes critical to push with rubbish when first in the pot and in late position to continue to compete ?

For example lets say, I'm on the button with 20K, its full table of 10 and I have got 72o, blinds are 2k/1k with an ante of 200, so I have 10 BB or an M of 4. Should I pushing now ? or should I have gone way before getting this low ? or I'm not quite out of it just yet and can survive at least another orbit before having to make this move.

Obviously it depends on the stack size of other people on the table, but for the sake of this example lets say that there were 200 players with a starting stack of 10K and we are now down to the last 60, so an average stack would be approx 35K, so I need a double up to get back to average.

Of course there is no definite answer, but I think this stage of the game is certainly a weak point for me, and am looking for opinions to use as guidance for when I next find myself here.

Hopefully that makes sense.

This is my first post in this section, hopefully it comes across as a sensible and genuine question.

For some time now, I'm finding that I get into the last 30% of an MTT the majority of the time, but I'm more likely to limp into the cash ( if I cash ) than threaten the final table.

My question is, when getting short stacked and not getting any monsters, at what point do the cards get disregarded and I need to be getting all my chips in with any two in a hope of taking the blinds and antes or maybe even getting lucky and doubling up to stay alive ?

I've heard and read the figures 10BB or even 10 orbits, and must admit have used this in the past but aways been unfortunate with my timing and ran into a big hand and then end up kicking myself for not waiting a little longer. I've also waited for that monster and by the time it came, obviously I need about 7 on the trot just to pay the next blind or others are priced to call with lesser holdings.

Obviously its better to not get in this position in the first place, but maybe its a mental hurdle I have to get through as finding myself in this position a lot recently when not getting dealt playable hands.

Thanks.

v.good updates guys. Thanks.

2 mins till the off

you have pm

cheers

GL today with the reporting Kev and Claw, looking forward to the updates.

Cheers

Mike

Last night at DTD i used a computer to play a little on Will Hill online casino.

Was under the impression that DTD only allowed DTD online poker and casino on their computers?

+1
was just thinking that ?

LOL

yeah never folding there, just unlucky that someone had a hand behind.Found it spooky though that I got the hand when I was reading this thread

I was just reading this thread whilst playing a small $5 game on IPoker, 16 left from 489 starters, blinds 2k/1k with 200 ante, I'm in 13th with just 19K left 10th has 25K, find 1010 in CO so shoved pre, SB has AA, gg me.

Thanks ;-)

Nice One.

Thx to both Minted and DTD for covering live updates for the UK majors.

Thanks for the updates today, look forward to joining you again later.

is it just me or is this thread about 6 from the top

looking forward to the updates Floopy.