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Question

If one has been consuming information and arguments from both sides, with as open minded an approach as possible, and has come to the conclusion that they are still undecided, would the correct response be to A) Not vote B) Vote remain because you have not been persuaded to leave?

Try not to throw your own opinion either way on what Britain should do, just on whether not voting is the same as an expression of wishes to remain.

not vote because you haven't been swayed by remain seems logical.

Had this debate with Sophie (who is in this situation) last night and argued that the best option was to spoil a ballot paper, as that would at least be counted within turnout and would be her exercising a democratic right not to go with either side.

I feel that you should for remain. The reason being that you are accepting the status quo, are happy enough (or not convinced that the alternative is worse.) If you don't vote then you are effectively voting to leave in my opinion, as all the brexiters will certainly vote, but the status-quoers aren't certain to.

Betfair now have leave at 37% bit of a move on. 

Gordon Brown intervention can't be a positive can it?

Don't think it's anything to do with him. It's more the result of the latest guardian polling

Very sad & amazed at the reaction, or la k of, from the typical straight person.

Not seen anyone talk about this on Facebook & this post only got 5 replies. If this was in a typical nightclub the response would have been different by others.

It's only the gay community that cares.

Not ONE person at work mentioned it, at all. Couldn't believe it

go back a few months and it was closer.

Tighty, where did you get that graph from please?

Yes I'd defo be happier in a normal job but after living off decent money for years minimum wage simply isn't viable.

You'd be surprised. Being happier > having more money

I don't feel that all anti-Israel comments are necessarily anti-semitic.

I've never supported Israel's right-wing Likud party and even less so Netanyahu, and I have criticised them both many times. Does that mean that I am anti-semitic?

That is not as foolish a question as it may seem at first as I have known several Jews who were anti-semites.

I'm Jewish, support the fact that Israel exists, yet agree with the above regarding Netanyahu. I can confirm we are not anti-semitic.

Could someone give me some examples of the racism that Jews are suffering in this country? I don't mean stuff that may happen on the internet (which is a recent thing anyway), but in real life. Maybe I have been asleep at the wheel, but I am not aware of ever having witnessed an anti-Jew incident, or hearing about one. I heard of some gang-fights in Manchester a few years ago between Asian and Jewish youths, but I'm not sure if that counts. Apart from that, nothing. If it has been going on, I have missed it. Everyone else seems to be convinced that anti-Jew racism is rampant (though I never heard one of the mention it before this week, including this thread). Can someone help me to understand what are the incidents that are blighting the daily lives of Jews in the UK?

These were from 2014, I think there was a rise last year. Manchester suffers a lot from this http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/05/antisemitic-attacks-uk-community-security-trust-britain-jewish-population

Antisemitic incidents
Manchester, February 2014

Swastikas and the phrase “Jewish slag” daubed on gravestones at a Jewish cemetery.

Manchester, March 2014

An identifiably Jewish man was cycling to synagogue when youths jumped out at him, causing him to wobble on his bike. They then surrounded him and called him a “Jew”. He slipped and the group kicked him while he was on the ground. He did not suffer serious injury.

London, March 2014

A university student took a photograph of an identifiably Jewish person on a bus and them posted it on Twitter with the comment, “50 retweets and I’ll knock this Jew out”.

Norfolk, July 2014

A leaflet found among Israeli produce in a supermarket featured an image of the Israeli flag with the title “The flag of Zionist racist scum”. It read: “Deny the Holocaust? Of course there was a holocaust. What a pity Adolf and Co didn’t manage to finish the job properly!”

London, October 2014

Five girls from a Jewish secondary school were approached by a man at a London underground station who said: “Being Jewish is wrong. You are going to die if you carry on being Jewish,” and “I will kill you all after school.” He grabbed one of the girls by the wrist and said: “Come with me and be a Christian”. She kicked him and ran away.

CST said in 2014 there were 81 violent assaults, 81 incidents of damage and desecration of Jewish property, and 884 cases of abusive behaviour, more than double the number in 2013, several hundred of which involved social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter

thanks for the bump, this was incredible

No.

Once I accepted their offer, that's it, I can't have another bite at the cherry now.

Correct answer.

We have a minor issue in our block of flats.  We paid a bloke to put up a fence and he was handed the money by the lady downstairs and asked to count it but didn't bother and then came back saying that it was £100 short to his brother in law who lives in the other downstairs (who now says that he's going to pay this £100 out of his share).  I'm am raging about this.

Once you accept payment/settlement - that's it.  If you've been conned or whatever - tough, live and learn.

I don't think that's quite the same.

Let's say for argument sake that the guy was indeed handed x £ which was £100 less than agreed. He took it in good faith. There was an oversight and when he counted it later (didn't feel that he needed to at the time) it was indeed £100 short then he still is owed that imo.

Obviously he's probably pulling a fast one, but I don't think just because I've taken something in my hand that it's a done deal

kato
and his school uniform

chopped a comp with him about 4 years ago... he was wearing schoolboy shorts too...

He was a frequenter of my N London homegame about 8 years ago; uniform standard, also very generous with the takeaway he brought  - one of our more regular and benificent attendees.  In addition very knowledgeable about Go tournaments and clubs in London which was a pretty niche thing back in the day - my dad very appreciative.  Wherever he is (hello if lurker), very appreciative!

and monopoly boards

Livingstone suspended. Don't really know what to think of all this mess. He has said some stupid things in his time, for sure.

kato

and his school uniform

Has anyone been watching Inside Obama's Whitehouse.

Formidable stuff, formidable man imo. Imagine what he could have done with the support of congress.

pokerstars homegames

Montreal is awesome. Toronto is more just big city vibe (but still cool). Depends what you enjoy doing