riggy is a great player and head of the acadamy at badbeat. He has gone deep with stacks in a few of these before doing an Andy Black. If he holds his head he will be there at the death. Good to see Karl. simon and penley(again) all there as well.

dont know the others and sure they are decent enough but I will be rooting for a top 4 as above.

i got a  fishing spear gun by my bed,just goes to show where you live.
glad your all ok....

Do you give that to the burglars so they have at least a slight chance?

which is many peoples opinion even though the rules state that if a hand is tabled it speaks. It cannot be classed as dead if accidentaly mucked. If this happens the mistake has to be pointed out before the next hand is dealt which has happened in this scenario.

simple fact - HAND WAS TABLED SO IT SPEAKS AND IS NOT DEAD EVEN IF IT WAS MUCKED IN ERROR. now you made me get all shouty but that should be the end of it according to the rules.

players at the table will confirm what hand he had. His opponent is clever enough to declare 2 pair so dont tell me he didnt see the dealers cards. Anyone who is low enough to try and take a pot they didnt win deserves the poker gods to stick it to them whenever they get chance- karma is a bitch.

If other players on the table cannot confirm the hands (ie nobody can say for certain he had or had not tabled KJ) then the pot should stay with the other player. At the end of the day its a self deal comp and if the player is good enough to deal he should be allowed a little leeway for making a mistake instead of having the piss taken of him by someone angle shooting. Next time you are at a self deal comp take a look at how many players are keen to deal- not bloody many.

sure you can get in trouble for a gun. A decorative sword on the wall or a big hammer where you have been doing some repairs could easily be grabbed in self defence though I believe

probably lucky you got knocked out early enough to get home though or you may have bubbled and gone home to find everything you own gone.

mistakes happen but they can be rectified before the next hand is played. If a hand is tabled it cannot then be mucked and declared dead and cards speak. Yes the other players on the table shouldve spotted it and I have indeed pointed errors out on many occasions (even ones where I have been awarded pots incorrectly).

imo the opponent in the hand knew what he was doing when he declared 2 pair and knew a mistake had been made. For him to try and then keep the pot once the error has been highlighted means he's an angle shooter.

Hand is tabled it speaks. If the pot is wrongly awarded to the non winning hand then it can be corrected before the next hand takes place. The dealer should be able to confirm the hands (kind of biased opinion seeing as the dealer was involved in the pot but sure others on the table could confirm the hands).

Guy who is trying to keep the pot when he knows he is beat is an angle shooter- a mistake was made so give the guy the pot, end of story.

paul rigg has been so deep in a few of these now with chips. Must be due a run- he cant blow up every time (if he blows up again im gonna start calling him andy black).

gl to riggy and jimmy morgan

has he worked out how many houses he has yet?

simple mix up being dealt with by head office. Nothing juicy I'm afraid.

Oh yes, so  is. I got confused (just out of bed, thanks to Chili),

just nearly choked on my museli there....

LOL nearly choked on my sandwich at Laz eating museli...

laz definately bluffing imo

and before anyone thinks it I am not saying he is a fish for folding AA- I am saying anyone who says good fold/wp etc is treating him like a fish. He should be told why it isn't the correct fold so from now on he wont make the same mistake again. I think flushy and karl have probably explained why its a poor fold better than I could.

read the hand and the thoughts and I cant see how anyone can say it is a correct fold. If you are putting him on 5 hands I think you are vastly underestimating his range. He would not have led imo with the AK as you have correctly said but I doubt he would also lead with a set there- far more likely to go for the check raise option. By flatting his reraise pre I would say you have disguised your hand well so he has the right to believe his KK is still good. You've set your trap but if you are flatting with AA there I dont think there are any flops heads up you should be folding to a lead. Sometimes you have to just say ah **** it if hes got it hes got it and pay the man off.

I would have tikays range there as more likley to be  KK, AQs, QKs, 99 or even fresh air than the big hands you are giving him credit for.

Most of the above makes sense apart from the range assigned at the end.

KK and AQ are the only possibilities from Tikay given the pre flop action. AQ is doubtful. I'd need to look back at starting stacks before being sure but I don't think they were particularly deep so AQ is more likely a shove pre.

I may be completely wrong with that shove bit. Like I say it depends on how deep they were but I can't remember which page that was on.

EDIT: Just checked and he is deep enough to raise here. AQ definitely in his range imo. None of the others though.

dont underestimate the old boy- he still has moves. He has been known to make the odd "miss read" when representing a hand. Would love to be able to say yeh of course he has KK- its the only hand he could play that way but thats very easy to say in hindsite. I still reckon AA is way ahead of his range even on that dangerous flop- so far ahead in fact I think its a huge -ev fold. Everyone who is encouraging such dasatrdly folds should be ashamed of themselves- its like patting the local fish on the back telling him he has done nothing wrong. AA is a snap call here and if you are beat then so be it. In the long run you are losing far too much tournament equity if you are folding AA here.

read the hand and the thoughts and I cant see how anyone can say it is a correct fold. If you are putting him on 5 hands I think you are vastly underestimating his range. He would not have led imo with the AK as you have correctly said but I doubt he would also lead with a set there- far more likely to go for the check raise option. By flatting his reraise pre I would say you have disguised your hand well so he has the right to believe his KK is still good. You've set your trap but if you are flatting with AA there I dont think there are any flops heads up you should be folding to a lead. Sometimes you have to just say ah **** it if hes got it hes got it and pay the man off.

I would have tikays range there as more likley to be  KK, AQs, QKs, 99 or even fresh air than the big hands you are giving him credit for.

Any out of turn action must stand.

Two players left with cards.

* Player A bets 2500 all-in but he has acted out of turn and the bet is returned to him.

Having gone all-in out of turn, he is now all-in irrelevant of what happens with Player B. In this case, Player B puts in the 2500 and the cards are on their backs. Player A does not have, nor should he be afforded, the opportunity to fold. He already declared that he is all in and all out of turn action must stand.

* Player B bets 2500 and turns his cards over before Player A has the chance to act.

He has called the out of turn action and assumed correctly the cards are on their backs.

totally incorrect under every set of rules (tda, gukpt,wsop etc). The bet stands unless there is an aggresive action before him. If it had been a limp then that would be different and the limp would have to stand but because he has raised he doesnt have to call or do anything. He has the option of calling or folding thanks to the other guy raising to 2500.

What you should do if someone bets out of turn is check as the bet then has to stand. If you call the bet also has to stand. If you raise it opens up the fold option of the out of turn better.