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on: November 18, 2019, 08:59:05 PM
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The Sheffield Hallam seat looks like one of the most interesting
2017:
Labour - 21,881 Lib Dem - 19,756 Con - 13,561
You have to fancy that’ll be a comfortable winback for the Lib Dems - a majority of only 2,000 to turn over in a seat they held for 20 years against an almost certainly topped out Labour vote and a good chunk of 13,000 Tory votes they can tap up for voters who disagree with the hard-right Tory turn but who don’t want to see Corbyn as PM. Currently 1/3 with Ladbrokes, which I’d be taking.
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on: November 12, 2019, 09:32:49 PM
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Like whiter than white Donald, then. They're all double busy when it suits their own ends.
She's got some kind of book out with her nipper, so no shock she's putting herself about a bit again.
Exactly the same thing applies to Trump. Not his place or hers to interfere in British politics. Why not Hillary? She’s a private citizen with no political job - bit different from the President wading in.
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on: November 11, 2019, 12:36:38 PM
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Farage announces the Brexit Party won’t stand in any of the 317 Tory held seats.
Price on a Tory majority immediately moved from 1.75 to 1.5, with a hung parliament drifting.
This may not help get a Tory majority as much as the price move suggests - to get the majority the Tories need to win the Labour held marginals, and enough of them to offset the loss of seats in Scotland, and Farage’s decision does not help that. It may actually hurt it as Farage explicitly aligning with the Tories may put off ex-Labour voters who would otherwise vote Brexit.
Farage’s decision protects against Labour making ground, but that was unlikely anyway.
If you have any thoughts of liking a hung parliament then now is the time to bet.
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on: September 25, 2019, 12:02:08 PM
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All this turn of momentous events to get Parliament back, and all they are doing is bickering, heckling & point-scoring. What a waste. An attempt to find concensus of a way out of the Brexit mess has yet to be mentioned.
Bercow, meanwhile, has returned in fine form, referring to the Attorney General's maleficious tones. No idea what that means, but it does sound rather splendid.
Mellifluous - pleasing to the ear. I was thinking that if Geoffrey Cox did have to resign as a result of all this he could find a lucrative career in voiceover work.
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on: September 25, 2019, 12:00:22 PM
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we haven't seen it on here, but on social media its odd? amusing? amazing? predictable? that so many Brexiters who insisted the prorogation was nothing to do with Brexit are now adamant prorogation being declared unlawful is an attempt to stop Brexit. They can't have it both ways!
They taking Boris' lead as he said this very thing in his comments following the ruling therefore all the people who have Union Jacks in their avatar (whether they're in Peterborough or St Petersburg) are going to say the same thing.
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on: September 25, 2019, 09:42:24 AM
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We got our first TV with teletext just before the 1988 Olympics. I remember my dad wanting to see the dog results from Wimbledon - I loaded up the greyhound results page to find it was on Belle Vue, the page was something like 1/47. That was a long old wait.
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on: September 21, 2019, 12:37:50 AM
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There’s a motion at the Labour conference to abolish the position of deputy leader, thus booting Tom Watson (not a compadre of Jeremy Corbyn) out into the wilderness.
The reason is that the Labour left have woken up to the fact they’re going to get absolutely spit-roasted by the Tories and LibDems at the upcoming election, which will be the end of Saint Jeremy. If Corbyn is forced to step down then the deputy takes over and the left do not want that as they want to be able to install a JC-acolyte as the next leader.
It is truly amazing how little interest the Labour left has in ever getting into power.
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on: September 21, 2019, 12:25:33 AM
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The sober reality of Brexit once again showing it’s head as Thomas Cook look like going under, with Brexit being a major factor in it. 9,000 jobs going, 150,000 abroad and set to have a major impact on leisure industry.
Perhaps a little karma for some of those abroad who voted to leave, they can now see what their vote is doing.
Not really sure Brexit can be blamed for this one - the company has £1.7bn of debt. When you’re geared up to the eyeballs like this then any little thing going against you can send you over, and Thomas Cook has Brexit uncertainty, higher fuel and hotel bills and the super Euro heatwave of last year which put Brits off going to the destinations that they make their money from.
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on: September 17, 2019, 05:06:14 PM
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Didn't the Lib Dem surge just happen because people faced the reality of voting for a party with an ambiguous Brexit position, and not because Vince Cable was better than Jo Swinson. Since she has taken over their support has remained at the level it was when she took over.
I don't realloy see why a 2nd referendum is so great, have people not learned anything from having one before? And I don't see how a 1-1 score really helps. I also don't think that there isn't much wrong in having a manifesto with a simple Brexit policy.
Agree its legit fair etc to take this position into a GE and seek a mandate for it. Be interesting to see if it turns out to be a vote winner or loser It’s fine to take the position, but it’s neither liberal, nor democratic. But if the Lib Dem’s get voted into power on the basis of the position then it becomes democratic.
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