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1  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: November 07, 2019, 11:23:18 PM

I asked someone on facebook who was posting the usual negative shite about the tories to show me something good about labour. I wanted a reason 'to' vote rather than more reasons 'not to' vote.

Anyway they came up with this: https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/106806/glance-heres-everything-new-labour-announced-2019?fbclid=IwAR3-vvzXriXcLuYPNNFHwrXTvPiJbAuGOHVTBg_4ZNrfdxoKj9mPYJuIAds

I mean seriously. How the f**k can they possibly deliver any of it?

We start with net zero carbon emissions by 2030. Hmmmm..... I'm a huge fan of this but I don't see how it's feasible. Trying to get there is something hugely positive though so I'm all aboard

Pledged to nationalise the big six energy companies. Erm, how exactly? Even if they somehow find the money can they really force everyone to sell their shares? Why not just set up a new company and make it so good that everyone starts using it for energy and it eventually becomes 'the big one'?

Free or affordable green public transport. Love it. Jezza for PM!!!!

Free prescriptions. Yup, nice one.

4 day working week with no reduction in earnings? I mean come on. Does anyone think this is possible?

Halve the use of food banks? Again how exactly? Just shut half of them perhaps? Why not nationalise Tesco and Morrisons? That would fix the food problem.....

Anyway there's more of course but I really can't see how they can make these promises. Someone please explain to me how I'm wrong if I am.

Do they make these pledges knowing that they're going to lose anyway so they'll never get called liars for failing to deliver their promises?

2  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: November 05, 2019, 10:48:37 AM
Seems like it's just going another typical campaign from all sides.

I've seen nothing positive just the usual telling us how bad the other lot are.

Anybody have any links to anything positive I can read?
3  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Blonde will make you STRONG on: November 03, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
All looking good so far on the new programme. Got up to 115kg for a set of 7 on bench yesterday which I was really happy with. At the start of the year I wasn't even doing triples at that weight so huge progress.

Squats and dead lifts are coming along slowly but surely. They've always been a weakness for me and I usually hurt myself but for now they seem very good by my standards.

Best squat has been 90kg for a set of 4, best dead lift 120kg for a set of 6. Both felt good with no back pain and I'm hoping the increased volume will help push the numbers. I'd like to get to somewhere around 200kg for deadlift and 120kg for squat but we'll see how that goes. It should be possible as I'm effectively a newbie at both lifts so there's plenty of untapped potential.

Medium level 4 week block has just started which means sets of 9, 7, 5 or 3. Slightly lower volume than the light block but not vastly different so will be good to see what happens with the numbers.

4  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Blonde will make you STRONG on: October 28, 2019, 04:18:08 PM
Killed the 15-1 bench for a new PB of 11.33.. good stretch session then into it fresh.. was even surprised myself Smiley

Pretty solid that mate. I'm not even ready to try it yet, no point until I can do at least 5 sets of 15 sit ups without cramping. I'll do a few tonight and see how they go.

It was a test day on my light block on Saturday which meant sets of 4 for as many as possible. Despite not going above 110kg for maybe 5 or 6 weeks I still managed 130kg although I needed a very light spot on the last one.

Considering I've never done more than 3 reps at 130kg that's really good so I'm very happy. It's a long programme 'til I hit the singles again but confidence is high at the moment for a shot at a possible PB when it finally comes round.
5  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: October 25, 2019, 10:48:03 PM
Isn't a GE a compromise?

Everyone in the country would know that they were really voting on brexit and to hell with other policies so it's effectively another referendum but this time leading to the result getting implemented (assuming a majority either way of course).

It's the clumsiest method available to deliver any sort of mandate on Brexit, with the added disadvantage of having a government for the next 5 years made up of whatever drops out of it.

Imagine you're a Tory member who wants to remain in the EU, or a Lib Dem member who wants to leave.  What if you're in a key marginal seat and you're desperately trying to keep someone in it, or vote someone out of it, based on their party politics, but who's Brexit policy isn't aligned with yours.  How do you express a political opinion and a Brexit opinion in a single vote?

Far more likely is the fact that you're in a safe seat of whatever colour, where anyone voting for another party for whatever reason will have no notable vote whatsoever, thanks to FPTP.  It's something we've all got used to in a general election scenario, but not when that election is also being used as the de facto referendum on Brexit policy.  If your safe seat is held by a Tory, and you're a remain supporter, why should you not get a say on Brexit, which is what a GE effectively does to that voter?

Worst of all, which is a situation I found myself in 2010, is if you're in the constituency which the (new) speaker represents.  You won't get a meaningful vote at all, either for the party you choose (or are a paid up a member of) or for the Brexit policy you prefer, because everyone else will stand aside to allow the speaker to be elected as 'Speaker'.

Why should everyone be forced to compromise in a general election between voting they way they wish on party political lines or trying to express an opinion on Brexit, especially when most of those opinions will count for nothing because the seat isn't a marginal one so the outcome of it will already be pre-determined?

Unfortunately for the next decade or so not many people are going to get exactly what they want.

Half the country are going to be p**sed off because of leave/remain. Half are going to be p**sed off because of tory/labour+lib.

At least a quarter are going to be doubly p**sed off

A quarter will have a decade of gloating

That's just how it is. Suck it up sunshine.
6  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Blonde will make you STRONG on: October 25, 2019, 10:41:11 PM
Great deadlift session tonight on the new programme. Worked up to a 6RM at 120kg which was quite a bit more than I was expecting. I only got 120kg for my 4RM two weeks ago so a big improvement.

Finished with 2 x 8 at 90kg which were relatively easy.

Volume seems to be paying off but it's very early days. This programme works really well for my squat and deadlift. I've always really struggled with both so having a fixed target helps to keep me focused and ensures I get the work done.

Gunning for Arby and his 200kg........ 
7  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Blonde will make you STRONG on: October 25, 2019, 10:34:54 PM

Hahaha nice one... beauty of it is  theres no time limit and you set times to try and beat Smiley

So I tried a few sit ups tonight whilst I was doing my cool down stretching.....

Did a set of 15, not too bad.

Second set of 15 was a real struggle towards the end. I somehow think another 90 reps would've been pushing it somewhat.

Admittedly this was at the end of a reasonably tough session but still I expected a few more than 30. To be fair I could've done a few more but I went sensible and stopped. There were little cramp like twinges as I got up so definitely best.

I think a week of these during my cool down to take the edge off and I think I'll be ready for a shot at the full thing. Might try a toned down version on my nights off at home with press ups and sit ups.

Won't be going for it tomorrow that's for sure. Pretty sure I'd die.
8  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: October 25, 2019, 03:30:47 PM
All of this is just Lakhoffian framing.

Johnson’s big pledge was ‘do or die, out by 31st’ (presumably he’d choose to die in a ditch)..and he has failed miserably.

By almost any standard you’d care to think of, he’s the worst PM ever.

This bickering over the timing of the election just serves to re-frame and distract.

All he had to do was act like an adult when he won on second reading but lost on the programme motion and resolved that WAB will take a few more weeks to pass and get on with it. But because Parliament, given time for the proper scrutiny might exercise a bit of sovereignty and make amendments which may not be totally helpful to Johnson winning a majority at the next election (even though a WAB would, in some form, have been passed) he’s decided to withdrawal the bill and threatens to go on strike.

Well fine, go on strike then you child. The absence of a PM is likely to be more effective than your Premiership, you abject failure.

Failure? He’s made it to prime minister.....hardly a failure. What have you achieved in life other than being good at whining on the Internet?

You've ignored the points made and turned it into a personal attack.

Having got the bill through second reading what do you think of his decision to not proceed with the legislation?

Do you think not getting your way 100% in a minority government and threatening to go on strike rather than seek compromise is a responsible course of action?

There isn't a compromise though is there? Anything that gets put on the table is just rejected as a matter of course.

I'd be amazed if half of them even bother to read the things now as they know what they're expected to vote regardless of whether they agree with it or not.

This goes for the 'yes' voters as well by the way, they're just as bad.

I wasn't this cynical until I saw a graphical representation of yes/no votes. It was basically all the yes's were blue and all the no's were red. Clearly they're just voting with their party rather than with their brains.

The whole thing's pathetic.


That's how party voting works though. It's like when people look at an MPs voting record. Generally it will just be just what the whip said to do rather than their personal opinion.

The compromise is to negotiate a deal with single market, customs union, potentially 2nd referendum, etc. Do that and there's a chance it goes through. The tories at no point in the process have attempted to do this. May's red lines prevented anything happening. And Johnson has no interest in any of this instead trying to paint a picture of it's parliaments fault for not agreeing with his policy.

Isn't a GE a compromise?

Everyone in the country would know that they were really voting on brexit and to hell with other policies so it's effectively another referendum but this time leading to the result getting implemented (assuming a majority either way of course).

9  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: October 25, 2019, 12:49:42 PM
All of this is just Lakhoffian framing.

Johnson’s big pledge was ‘do or die, out by 31st’ (presumably he’d choose to die in a ditch)..and he has failed miserably.

By almost any standard you’d care to think of, he’s the worst PM ever.

This bickering over the timing of the election just serves to re-frame and distract.

All he had to do was act like an adult when he won on second reading but lost on the programme motion and resolved that WAB will take a few more weeks to pass and get on with it. But because Parliament, given time for the proper scrutiny might exercise a bit of sovereignty and make amendments which may not be totally helpful to Johnson winning a majority at the next election (even though a WAB would, in some form, have been passed) he’s decided to withdrawal the bill and threatens to go on strike.

Well fine, go on strike then you child. The absence of a PM is likely to be more effective than your Premiership, you abject failure.

Failure? He’s made it to prime minister.....hardly a failure. What have you achieved in life other than being good at whining on the Internet?

You've ignored the points made and turned it into a personal attack.

Having got the bill through second reading what do you think of his decision to not proceed with the legislation?

Do you think not getting your way 100% in a minority government and threatening to go on strike rather than seek compromise is a responsible course of action?

There isn't a compromise though is there? Anything that gets put on the table is just rejected as a matter of course.

I'd be amazed if half of them even bother to read the things now as they know what they're expected to vote regardless of whether they agree with it or not.

This goes for the 'yes' voters as well by the way, they're just as bad.

I wasn't this cynical until I saw a graphical representation of yes/no votes. It was basically all the yes's were blue and all the no's were red. Clearly they're just voting with their party rather than with their brains.

The whole thing's pathetic.
10  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Blonde will make you STRONG on: October 24, 2019, 04:56:48 PM
60kg... is the weight ..its a negligable weight even for me. However will get your heart going benching then situps as fast as you can.. be surprised at how heavy 60kg can be for high repping with situps thrown in Smiley

Being really strong isnt particulary relevant as its a cardio/ strength kind of workout and you may fatigue quick

remember thats 120 reps of each .. 240 total Smiley

Make crossfitters out of you yet looool

I can imagine it's pretty hellish by the 6th round to be honest. I'm genuinely not sure I could do it at all although I guess if there's no time limit....... Cramping up during the sit ups is probably the biggest potential stumbling block. There's a chance I can't physically continue if that happens.

My cardio is terrible but has improved a tiny bit recently by doing more reps at everything. I'm not saying it's good, just not as bad as it was.

See how it goes if I get round to having a shot. I'm cutting at the moment and not aiming heavy so don't mind this sort of thing to burn a few calories. We have a low volume day on Saturday so it should be possible to have a go although we'd be taking it in turns so the time would be down to whoever was slowest of the two of us.

Any guesses?

I reckon I could get it done in under 20 minutes but not 100% convinced. My mate is heavier than me but he's a former semi-pro boxer and has a bit of a competitive streak so if anything I'll most likely be the one doing the holding up.

104.5kg, 44 year old lifelong cardio dodger......
11  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Blonde will make you STRONG on: October 23, 2019, 03:48:52 PM
I'm really enjoying my new programme although it feels strange lifting so light on bench day.

I got up to 102.5kg today for a set of 10 which was pretty good as I haven't done a 'working' set of ten for as long as I can remember. Haven't been above that weight now for 4 weeks so next week when I have to work up to a 4rm will be interesting. A few weeks back I managed 130kg for a triple so I'd hope for 120kg minimum for 4. Will see how that one goes.

I've been doing the same programme for squats, deadlift and OHP all of which have been fun. I really don't like squats and deadlift so having a set programme to work to has helped with motivation where I'd often just quit. Hopefully I'll make a few reasonable gains over the next 16 weeks. I class myself as a newbie for squat and deadlift so there is lots of potential for improvement.



I rarely stray above 100kg for 6 as i have no spotter.. dont think its a great bench weight.suppose i could 1 rep 120.. one of the workouts that involves bench is just a 60kg bar but 15-1 reps with situps for time.. so 15 bench reps followed by 15 sit ups then 14 bench ..14 situp and so on down to 1.. think my best is 13.02 so far.

If you don't regularly go heavy you'd need a few weeks to work up to 120kg I would imagine. It should be easy enough given that you can do 100 for 6 but unless your body is prepared for the extra load you won't have much chance if you just throw it in as a random.

It's similar for me switching to higher reps having spent months doing triples and singles. First few weeks are tough but then it'll get easier as I won't fatigue as much.

Volume for my new programme on 'light' day means getting 24 reps out in whatever way you see fit. Could be 4 x 6, 3 x 8, 2 x 12 or even 1 x 24 but it's at 65% of whatever your 10 rep max effort set was so gets very light.

That means dropping down to 67.5kg and just going for it. Somehow managed to get all 24 knocked out in one set but the last few were a grind. Felt an incredible pump afterwards which is always nice.

The 15 through to 1 bench / sit up thing sounds good. Might give that a go one day and see what time I could manage. 13 minutes doesn't sound too bad but I imagine it gets pretty tough

Is the 60kg based on your weight or is it the same for fatties as well? I'm weighing about 105kg and my mate is about 117kg. I barely think he'd notice 60kg, he did his one set of 24 at 82.5kg with a bit in the tank.

12  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: October 23, 2019, 03:10:43 PM

It feels pointless, they aren't going to start voting for an election because I sent an email! I expect a generic reply regardless.

Not because of you alone but if enough people keep on at them they have no choice but to take notice.

It's important that people keep badgering them. Even if you only get a generic reply from an assistant (which you will) it still matters.

Brexit / GE may be the exception to be fair as many politicians seem firmly fixed on their own ideals rather than those of their constituents.

Also if you have a labour MP I'm pretty sure they have been told to vote 'no' to anything either Brexit or GE related regardless of what the f**k their own opinion is.

Disgusting isn't it Sad
13  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Joke!! on: October 23, 2019, 08:12:56 AM

F**king idiots setting fireworks off in October!! Who does that???

Scared my dog shitless.

Poor thing ran straight through the Christmas tree!!!

14  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: October 23, 2019, 08:10:11 AM
We’ve got to go to an election now.

Wrote to my MP (pointlessly) to suggest this or lose my vote.

This is absolutely not pointless, well done you for doing so.

That's what they're there for, to implement what the electorate want whether that be remain. leave, election, no election or literally anything else you can think of.

They must love it that so many people think it's pointless and therefore don't bother, it saves them having to do their job.

I wrote to my local councillor recently on a much less serious issue than brexit, there were some plans to change some local roads and it was ridiculous. I got a response and I presume partly because of lots of people writing to them they changed their minds.

That was the first time I'd ever written to them as I always thought it was pointless but it made me feel good that they did something about it even though it wasn't solely because of me of course.

I then had another even less serious issue where I was trying to get a new dustbin (the dustbin men decided mine needed to go in the wagon with my rubbish) but it proved impossible with the councils website and phone system. Honestly they're shocking and seem to have been designed with the sole purpose of making people give up.

Anyway because I'd previously had a response I thought 'sod it' and went to the local councillor. I even apologised in my email for wasting his time with such a petty matter but he stressed that it wasn't petty and that if things like this don't get escalated what can they do about it.

It's obviously highly unlikely that you'll get a personal response from your MP on this matter because they'll have hundreds or hopefully thousands of letters of a similar nature to deal with at the moment. Your letter will be read though and if enough people are writing to them saying the same thing then it will get their attention.


15  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: As the saying go’s.... on: October 22, 2019, 02:25:46 PM
Thank you.

My issue is that the demonisation of 'single-use' plastics is a red herring. They are the best form of food packaging we have. The issue is with disposal, not their use. Just because some people have disposed of them irresponsibly doesn't mean there is any merit in reducing their use. You throw them in the bin and your Council incinerates them, converting them into energy. What is the problem with that?

PS - Landfill has reduced dramatically in recent years so, from being the main form of disposal, it formed just one-eighth of tonnage last year, and is still in free-fall. The massive growth in incineration means that seven-eighths is now split equally between it and recycling, with incineration still increasing.

Lol. I was with you for a little while until you decided we can just burn the problem Cheesy

Plastic is incredible. I can't begin to imagine the lives it's saved over the years but it will be countless millions. I don't demonise plastic and I use a lot of it including a lot of single use plastic.

Absolutely the problem is disposal but if we use a little bit less then surely there is less to dispose of (or set fire to).....?

There's an argument that burying plastic is actually better than burning it. If you burn it you create CO2 which isn't ideal. If you bury it you've captured that CO2 pretty much forever. Even if you don't bury it the CO2 is captured within the plastic for hundreds of years as it won't decompose.

We do see a lot of unnecessary plastic package though don't we? Bananas and oranges packed in plastic bags. Why? Just not necessary.

And absolutely you should pat yourself on the back for 'doing your bit'. Just don't get on a high horse thinking you're better than everyone else because you own a cotton bag for life. The energy it takes to produce one of those compared to plastic bags is frightening.


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