Mr Dick plays in Glasgow. Good luck John!

Go Go Newportlad!!

Well played Darren and Dewi!! You guys are in a great position to do the business!!

Good sailing today

Dewi, fresh off of his glorious chopping of the £75 event last night, is on a very comfortable 21k.

 

Thanks Dana with your awesome detective skills

Go Shallis and Dingdell!!

Chip count for Darren Shallis please?

GL Newportlad!

Go on the Blondes!!

GL Newportlad (for the win!) and all the other Blondes playing.

£20 with visual evidence...

Very good challenge and very good cause!

Found a couple of me, 1st Christmas party in 77 or 78 second is watchin utd at Villa Park in 1979, any chance of joining the boy band?

Cool photo's Dewi   You look so young and full of vitality. Where did it all go wrong?

Best application I have found thus far = I Love Katamari.

Will cost you a fiver, but worth every penny for hours of tilty, stuff-collecty fun.

What does it do?

The only one I've got is a translator and I got it free. I'm going to use it to translate at online poker tables although I suspect forgien chat follows the themes of English speaking bad losers....

yes people may well buy another drug with their ecstasy or cannabis but only because they're available from the same place atm

lol

madasahatstand,

I dont know the context in which others have used the word 'abuse', but I used it not to describe those that take drugs for fun.. if everyone took drugs for fun and didn't get addicted and didn't get dependant on them, there wouldnt be much reason to criminalise them in the first place, but its used to describe those that do go down the dark path. Maybe addicts is a better term? If thats a case of moralising, I'd like to apologise to all the drug addicts that are reading this thread. 

Maybe our numerous debates on this issue has softened you around the edges? Wonders will never cease!

debates? lol, sermons more like!  but yup, most of what you say about drugs makes sense

Yes you do like to preach! I'll make a liberal of you one day

yes people may well buy another drug with their ecstasy or cannabis but only because they're available from the same place atm

lol

madasahatstand,

I dont know the context in which others have used the word 'abuse', but I used it not to describe those that take drugs for fun.. if everyone took drugs for fun and didn't get addicted and didn't get dependant on them, there wouldnt be much reason to criminalise them in the first place, but its used to describe those that do go down the dark path. Maybe addicts is a better term? If thats a case of moralising, I'd like to apologise to all the drug addicts that are reading this thread. 

Maybe our numerous debates on this issue has softened you around the edges? Wonders will never cease!

There is some sense in what Totalise says and its not soley a gateway argument. If most people go to a house to buy E, they wont consider buying heroin, infact they would probably find a different supplier. There are certain vunerabilities that may attact certain people to experiement with heroin.

The word 'abuse' interests me. Most people dont 'abuse' drugs but take them for fun. People who do end up using problematically, do drugs for differrent reasons and may be more prone to following the 'gateway' path. Calling people abusers is moralising IMO but I think people are talking about problem use when they use that term? If not, they dont know what they are talking about. If you told the typical E users thay were abusers, they would have a good old laugh and probably want to give you some good E old loving anyway

[Sadly, it's the way the world works.]

I'm a bit of a deontologist.

The government should spend more time doing what is right and true for the sake of it being right and true, and not worry about the short term consequences such and such a desicion will have once the media does its thang.

The media don't give a fuck about the consequences of their reporting, so the government has to instead? I don't like it, it's pretty backward.

Sadly, it's the way the world works.

I thought for a minute you were drinking from the niaivity fountain until I saw your last sentance Politics as you know is about gaining support, so playing to peoples worse fears causes reactive responses in the nation and it buys votes. They do not act in our best interests, they act to gain popularity. The problem with the E example is that most of the public are frightened of drugs BECAUSE they are illegal and because they get bad press. Scaremongering!

A few examples of scare tactics
 You will die if you take drugs - most people dont but the chances are raised because they are illegal and cut with all sorts of dangerous stuff.
They lead onto other drugs - nonsense. The fact that they are illegal means you need to go to places to buy them were you might come across other drugs. It's not the drug itself, its other factors.

Its morally wrong - Yes for people who believe the hype. Don't get me wrong, its a worry if you have children/young family members who start experimenting but this isnt helped by making drugs illegal and making kids go 'underground' to take them, because they will.

What actually is harmful - drugs themselves in a small number of cases; getting jailed and ruining a future because of a criminal record; being outcast from the family; family relationships being damaged because of lies dammed lies.

People have very strong opinions on drugs and I think opinions are developed in line with levels of education and experience. We won't ever agree on the subject, most people know all they need to know thanks very much....

Byron - steroids enlarge the heart muscle as well as all the other major muscle groups and heart attacks ensue and kill folk. It's kind of interesting that steroid users dont see themsleves as drug users though (well the ones Ive met). Funny how we can argue ourselves into believing we are different and all those druggies are bad. lol

Happy 21st