Come on Leigh!

[Including myself.]

Has the most control over his emotions of anyone i have seen playing poker.

Including myself.

Wow! Massive Statement [ ]

GL to Brian Harland, APAT Forum Team Member last month and seriously lovely bloke.
 
Overdue a result at this level.

Very much this!

+1

And GL to James Tomlin also

£75 freezeout at the 200 / 400 / 50a level

I have around 22k in Seat 2
Seat 8 has me covered by a little (c.24k)
Seat 3 has around 12k

Seat 4 is the button;

Seat 7 Limps UTG, Seat 8 calls as does Seat 1

I have  and make it 2600

Seat 3 shoves his 12k

Folds round to seat 8 who re-shoves his 24k

Seat 1 tanks for around 5 minutes and folds.

I call.

Seat 8 has 
Seat 3 has 

Aces hold.

seat 1 folded Queens. (Live poker is so rigged)

Now my gut feel at the time was it's AA v KK and therefore a simple cooler but as I thought more and discussed it I started to think it was a bad call with people saying 'he can only have aces there. Now I disagree with that statement but does he have AA often enough to make it a fold??

Then my thinking came full circle as I thought, 'what if seat 8 wasn't there?' Now I know that's a massive IF but humour me for a minute. Let's say he's gone for a cigarette and missed the hand. The hand plays out the same except Seat 1 now re-shoves his Queens whenn it comes around to him and this time I am ahead and win. Very results orientated I know but hopefully people can see where I am coming from.

Thoughts?

Given that we shove (assuming antes are in play) in this scenario, at what point does our move change from shoving, to a standard raise? 15BB? 18BB?

There were Antes; Shoving ftw then!!

Playing an online $10 tourney with around 50 left of 100 and I'm dealt  in mid position with a 13bb stack (8k at 300/600) and I really didn't know whether I should be just shipping this straight in or make a standard raise with the intent to call any shove and / or shove any flop when called pre with the possible exception of really horrible flops e.g.  where I may let go.

Being results orientated in this case I went for option B and the SB flopped a set of 8 on  flop which I shoved into- if I had shoved pre would he have folded? (his stack was slightly smaller than mine). If I shove am i either only picking up the B&A or only getting called by JJ+ or AK?

What would we do with  in this scenario?
What would we do with 44 through 99?

Maybe Bedi will win this, that'll be OK :-)

This

[they fall over]

stands up, kicks the rope dividers that seperate railers from the play, they fall over. A valet arches an eyebrow. The cash desk peer over the desk.

The dividers or the railers?

I see mantis although to be fair one bit of info I did miss was that my stack had increased in the last 2 orbits having picked up a couple of decent sized pots which more than compensated for those three raise-folds.

On reflection I think I am always opening (although for less) and folding here and I'm going to read up on ICM too.

ty

All things considered in op not sure I would be opening this hand at all

Your saying I should fold  in the C/O in an unopened pot in this situation?

Can you explain why? I'm assuming you wouldn't always fold that hand it the c/o and that there are plenty of situations when you wouild open with it?

Thanks for the responses, I appreciate it.

Reflecting on your comments and many conversations I've had over the weekend, it seems that I am only thinking on one level in this spot regarding the eventual call. I will try to learn and improve my tournament play.

And yes, I accept that pre should be more like 2.2x

Another question, what can I call with in this spot?

Presume AJ is an easy call? so does that mean AT is also?
What about pairs? 88+ ?

Hi

Rarely post on here (mainly use blonde to rail friends in DTD events) and even rarer to post in this area but I'm really interested in people's views on this hand.

Tournament - APAT English Championship 2 day event. 15k starting. 45 min levels. Good Slow Structure. £75 buy-in. c£3k up top with an added value seat.

We are approaching the end of level 13 which is also the final level of day 1. Around 45 remain from 170 ish runners. NB Making Day 2 is not relevant in my thinking although the blind increase is.

I have been moved to this table c. 45 minutes ago. I know about half the table and would generalise that they are solid / tight. I have been the most active player although not maniacal.

The villain has not been at the table long. His only action has been to 3-bet my open to 15k from a 45k stack repping super-strength. I folded (I didn't have much).

I have opened & folded to shoves twice in addition to the example above so the table knows they can do it to me. In fact on the very previous hand it had folded round to my button at 1/2 and I opened with J3 as the SB is super-tight and the BB has just joined the table and hasn't put a chip in yet. BB shoves so I snap fold.

So the very next hand blinds are 1k/2k 300a
I have 83k & villain has 64k
Blinds will go to 1500 / 3k in 5 minutes

I open from the C/O to 5.5k with  , Button & SB Fold. After quite a while the BB shoves his 64k. I generally make quick decisions but on this occassion I tanked. Obviously there are hands which crush me & hands I am racing. But I am also putting A8 & below firmly in his range along with KJ etc.

It's effectively for my tournament life (I had him covered by 8BBs). My rationale is that I genuinely believe I am ahead and I want to win this tournament. If I fold I will have 25BBs in 5 minutes. If I call & I'm right, I have 130k which will put me in the Top 5.

I eventually make the call and the villain sheepishly shows  Obviously he gets there otherwise I probably don't post this but I spoke to a few people as the night went on and would like to pose a few questions. Instantly at the table some of the players said 'great call'. Most I spoke to afterwards said they would fold and I get this, I totally get it, I nearly folded myself.

It's a 'correct' call as I'm ahead but I guess another question is 'Do you want to play for 12 hours then get it in when you are likely to be 60/40 or do you wait for a better spot'? I even asked a few players after whether they call if his cards a face up and most say no, not all but most, but don't you have to get it in 60/40 win a race etc at some stage?

So my questions are:

Would you call or Fold?
Where do you place the Call on a Scale of Hero to Donkey?
Would you call if you could see his cards?
Does the call make sense statistically?
Is the call good or bad tournament strategy?

Hopefully no tl:dr but I did read Tighty's template asking for as much info as possible

GL to the APAT-ers Al & Pitchie

Also pleased for Mallett, he was on my table for most of the 2days of APAT Newcastle. I can't understand a word he says either, but he seems a nice lad.

[he might be receiving a letter from Luton management after the weekend.]

Yeah same gear on as he had on at last night, but not a problem as he might be receiving a letter from Luton management after the weekend.

Sounds intriguing... anything to add?