[And those people that say its bad for the poker community and looks bad on poker etc etc, get a grip, its nothing to do with 'poker' , it's a business arrangement gone wrong at some point and should be sorted out away from the public eye with these idiots chucking their 2 pence in knowing nothing (that's my issue - Dubai clearly you are in the know, not aimed at you at all) just those people who like to chuck a comment in because they know a mate who knows a mate etc!]

And am I right in thinking a certain mr '---' was talked into giving an unauthorised 10k without Andrews permission?

So not as some people start spouting, as clear as a man stealing 25k off another man?

I've never said who was right or wrong, it's clearly an issue to be resolved between
 Two men without random people slagging individuals off without knowing a single fact.

There is a dispute of which i am not, or any busy Internet trolls, party to, so have no idea of who is right or wrong,
But I do know, no individual has gone and stole a penny off another man as reported initially!

Very very surprised how it's escalated with rumours and threats from people, girlfriends, friends, whoever, Because this is a business agreement that has gone wrong and needs to be sorted out! No different than business issues that go on every single day 100x bigger than this!

And those people that say its bad for the poker community and looks bad on poker etc etc, get a grip, its nothing to do with 'poker' , it's a business arrangement gone wrong at some point and should be sorted out away from the public eye with these idiots chucking their 2 pence in knowing nothing (that's my issue - Dubai clearly you are in the know, not aimed at you at all) just those people who like to chuck a comment in because they know a mate who knows a mate etc!
I have to say I put a lot down to jealousy!
The end!

i agree with this

maybe you need to get a grip???

maybe youre the idiot chucking in a 2 pence with knowing nothing???

Dont be so brash,

Of course It has EVERYTHING to do with poker.

Are you not on a poker forum talking about it?!?!

If it was a business arrangment between two people we wouldnt know about it, they wouldnt be putting it all over twitter and this discussion wouldnt exist.

The fact that sam and andrew have been so public about it says everything it needs to. If you go on there twitter, facebook or website the first thing you see is 'proffesional poker player'.

Sams actually says something along the lines of 'the most succesful british tournament player in history'.

How can something so public not be presented to the media as the face of poker???

Regardless of the facts, you have two very public figures seen regularly in the media.

In my eyes. Asking to borrow money and then refusing to pay it back is theft.

Poker has a very bad rep and it needs all the help it can get.

Tikay for main event might be a start!

To be fair, the above is the 100% example of why I didn't really want to get involved with this discussion but unfortunately I find it difficult to 'go with the flow', 'jump on the bandwagon' etc etc

I don't even want to highlight any points above, however I'm going to highlight the one about about Sam being most successfull...blah blah!  Does this automatically make him right in this discussion? What actual relevance does this fact have on anything. This is a big point, do you know him or do you just wish you knew him because he has this title? Do you think if you stick up for him it may get you an invite to a party or the like?

If you read my posts, I've not once said a single bad word about him or anyone individually. I've said I found it disappointing someone of his stature who I've met a couple of times and found a pleasant guy in the midst of a lot of big time Charlie's , would air his laundry in public. I have said a bad word about no body.

Then we get you who comes on and suggests i could be an idiot! When you clearly know nothing of this whole situation yet feels the need to question people who make valid points! not saying my points are correct, but I have a point and any one disagrees then fine, hence the reason that it's on a discussion board.

And no sorry, it has Nothing to do with the poker community, just because you or I have played a game of poker gives you/us  no right to say it effects you or has anything to do with you.

I'm sure you have a good point to make and good luck with it. My point is personal with no one apart from the people who form an opinion without any rhyme or reason!

Story doesn't seem to add up. I could be wrong but i assume sam and luke are friends, which would surely mean Luke could ask Sam for the euros and cut out a pointless middle-man (Feldman). If true however Feldman seems to owe Sam €25k, but Luke also owes Feldman €€€ for the money he spunked off without permission?

Maybe Luke also owes Sam money....?!

And am I right in thinking a certain mr '---' was talked into giving an unauthorised 10k without Andrews permission?

So not as some people start spouting, as clear as a man stealing 25k off another man?

I've never said who was right or wrong, it's clearly an issue to be resolved between
 Two men without random people slagging individuals off without knowing a single fact.

There is a dispute of which i am not, or any busy Internet trolls, party to, so have no idea of who is right or wrong,
But I do know, no individual has gone and stole a penny off another man as reported initially!

Very very surprised how it's escalated with rumours and threats from people, girlfriends, friends, whoever, Because this is a business agreement that has gone wrong and needs to be sorted out! No different than business issues that go on every single day 100x bigger than this!

And those people that say its bad for the poker community and looks bad on poker etc etc, get a grip, its nothing to do with 'poker' , it's a business arrangement gone wrong at some point and should be sorted out away from the public eye with these idiots chucking their 2 pence in knowing nothing (that's my issue - Dubai clearly you are in the know, not aimed at you at all) just those people who like to chuck a comment in because they know a mate who knows a mate etc!

I have to say I put a lot down to jealousy!
The end!

Assuming what Sam told me is true, which I have no reason to believe it ain't given it was couple weeks before story came out, then Feldman did steal the money from him. Borrowed it, and then refused to pay it back and turned phone off. Seems like theft to me

It had nothing to do with some staking deal between the 2. Feldman asked to borrow money and Sam lent him it

Dubai not doubting you, however very different than the story I was told from the other side, there is always two sides to every story and no doubt as normal the truth usually comes out! I have no allegiance to either however I also don't like people making judgement or jumping on the bandwagon until it does! I guess it should be sorted in private and nothing to do with any of us but I'm pretty confident it's not as straight forward as a man stealing money off another man!

25k is a huge amount of money no matter what you're worth! But no one has 'stole' 25k off of anyone! And very surprised how some people have conducted themselves over the whole situation

Yeah it was pretty terrible stuff. Would not have been suprised if Sam told her to remove it as it was embarrassing stuff

You'd hope so, he's a decent lad surprised if the original tweets come from him

If I win 2, you're in!

Trickett's girlfriend seems to be a big fan.

https://www.facebook.com/andrew.feldman.98

Comments below the secret millonaire photo, you don't need to be a friend.

cringe, wtf is she doing blasting off on there!

Although to her credit, some of the lines are fucking hilarious

Soracha Ní Chiosáin don't worry Natasha - the trees still love you!
3 hours ago · 1
Natasha Sandhu doubt it when iv just cut one down in my garden so i can build a massive BBQ
3 hours ago · 5

personal favorite!

Lol. I thought DaveShoeLace using it to promote the book was abso genius. Most of its been deleted now

I find it all slightly embarrassing! But I'm. Not one to air dirty laundry in public!

Jason where have you been hiding, not seen you on the sats or at Dtd!

From what I know about this and is quite a lot, its not a case of anyone robbing anything, its a dispute over this staking.

Its amazing again how people form this whole perception of someone or something without actually knowing any facts about it at all or 2nd hand information. I'm definitely on the fence over this one sounds like a normal dispute that has arisen and no one has stolen a penny off anyone.

I very much sound like Feldmans best mate, I'm not at all, but I find it all very amusing that keyboard warriors love coming on to bad mouth a guy they know nothing about, zero facts about an incident, but are happy to go along with the band wagon and throw in the odd line of abuse because their mate has passed on a rumour.

The only decent negative comment I've seen is the first from George about his commentary, which most would agree is not great and thats something we can all comment on because we just have to watch the show. Doesn't mean he's this bad person everyone seems to go on about.

the reason people may be jumping on this particular bandwagon is because they know things about feldman that you obviously don't.

I know exactly what you're referring to, prob not all, but I also know some things are twisted a lot, what im point out is the majority of people giving the guy stick know nothing, just love to get in a little dig and have no clue what they're on about. Again, I'm not sticking up for him, but I think a lot of people are just proper clueless, small minded and like to follow the crowd. Little sad internet trolls! just read the twitter and Facebook comments, its totally embarrassing!

And im pretty sure most people that are giving the guy stick have never ever made any mistakes in their lives....oh wait!!

Barry greenstein cliffs?

Robin Hood was his nickname back in the boom, because he gave his tournament winnings to a children's charity.

Pretty disappointed you didn't know that already actually.

Only for a year...but then I would as well if Full Tilt was bankrolling me on the quiet and I never had to pay it back!! there's a pattern

He was doing that years before full tilt was even thought of mate.

Yeah granted, I was just being smart!!

Barry greenstein cliffs?

Robin Hood was his nickname back in the boom, because he gave his tournament winnings to a children's charity.

Pretty disappointed you didn't know that already actually.

Only for a year...but then I would as well if Full Tilt was bankrolling me on the quiet and I never had to pay it back!! there's a pattern

Good luck gents!

Thought it was great fun, not so sure I'd have enjoyed it as much if I had spent £1600 euros trying to get in!!!

From what I know about this and is quite a lot, its not a case of anyone robbing anything, its a dispute over this staking.

Its amazing again how people form this whole perception of someone or something without actually knowing any facts about it at all or 2nd hand information. I'm definitely on the fence over this one sounds like a normal dispute that has arisen and no one has stolen a penny off anyone.

I very much sound like Feldmans best mate, I'm not at all, but I find it all very amusing that keyboard warriors love coming on to bad mouth a guy they know nothing about, zero facts about an incident, but are happy to go along with the band wagon and throw in the odd line of abuse because their mate has passed on a rumour.

The only decent negative comment I've seen is the first from George about his commentary, which most would agree is not great and thats something we can all comment on because we just have to watch the show. Doesn't mean he's this bad person everyone seems to go on about.

How is Feldman a Millionaire?! He plays so bad!

I feel sorry for him, seems so uncomfortable in himself and clearly a lot of people don't like him. Can't be a nice place to be...

Plays so bad but is a millionaire from poker? hmm...wish I played that bad