5k over a month isnt much for you lot, why not change it to a crossbook. So if the shrewdies are 25k up at the end of the month each player gets 5k, bit nicer financially especiially if your going to be grinding, and if you get a siccccko score then you can send them bustooo.

Or....


HU4ROLLLZ YO?

dont see the need to 3bet pre this early.

those that said it, how are we responding to a 4bet?

think this is pretty standard to call down 3 streets.

Pretty much similar response from my friend who was in the hand. We both thought that if we raise any of the 3 streets, all worse hands fold, and all better hands raise. We thought the only other option would be donking the flop looking weak.

Sorry guys, sure was sober when I posted this..

Villain raised to 600

Hero flats.

This is from GUKPT Newcastle main event btw.

I'll edit first post too.

[HERO: JJ ?]

A friend played this hand, we all spoke about the hand and had different opinions...

Scene : GUKPT Newcastle (main event)

Blinds 100/200
Hero Stack : 24k
Villian Stack : 16.5k

Pre flop:

UTG : fold
UTG+1 : fold
MP1 : fold
MP2 : fold
Hijac : fold
C/O : fold
BO : Raise to 600
SB : fold
HERO: JJ  ?

IMO two different options here, flat or raise. I don't mind either option tbh, no reads on villain yet so raising might cause a bad spot if villain decides to 4bet, however the  +'s are that it will help us define his hand.

Hero decided to flat the villains raise.

Flop

832r

HERO: ?

Betting out here will lose value from hands like AK/AQ/KQ hands that will cbet this hand everytime, will also possibily get hands like 55-10/10 to be cautious and not gain three streets of value. Negatives are that if villain decides to check behind and a q-a comes do we check fold the turn??

Anyway, hero checked and villain bet 1100.

Hero? Raising here could inflate the pot, but flatting here doesn't define villains hand, again there are two ways to play this, what is everybodys opinion?

Hero decided to flat to get three streets of value without inflating the pot. Turn was another 3 and it was the heros turn again here.

IMO betting here starts to ring the alarm bells of the villain, why am I betting out now? If we check what hands that bet the flop that we are beating will bet again? A8/99/10-10 maybe more? Again if we check behind and a q-a peels do we check fold river?


Villain bet out 2400 and perhaps this is the right time to raise and find out exactly where we are, defining our opponents hand and perhaps hopefully taking the pot down right here. Raising here however does eliminate our third street of bluffing value from villain.

Hero calls 2400 and the river brings a offsuit 5. The board now reading
823 3  5


Hero again has a hard decision whether to 1) bet for value   2) check raising  3) check calling, check folding is obv out of question considering how slowly we have played the hand imo.

1) If villain has a hand like 78, 89, a8, maybe even 99 he may cautiously check behind.

2) If we check raise what hands do we exactly think will call our raise? We have shown strength by check calling two streets then raising the river, our hand basically looks like a turn full house the way we have played it

3) Checking with the intention of flat calling a raise means we might miss out on some value that we would of got by leading out.

What is the best line here too?

So alot of decisions to be made in this hand, obviously not one way is the perfect line, but I'd like to hear how everybody else (especially the blue/black belters) would play this hand. I'll post results after so nobody is results orientated.


I know theres lots of different decisions and lots of different options throughout the whole hand, but thoughts would be very welcome?

For the nits/fish who dont shove here what exactly is your range? Such an easy autocall. Also I'm guessing the majority of players who fold here are live players?

Why are we saying he could have qq-aa here? He obv raises the flop with op to the board. Depending on how aggresive he is, he probs raises akc here, only hands which he flats two streets are flush draws imo. Bet folding this river is awful too for people suggesting to fire out a blocker. People fire out blockers far too much these days, as a kinda disguised value bet, playig 5-10 at the venetian I guess you get raised here even if he has air.

Oh and fold pre.