[Eat My Stack Forum]

Eat My Stack Forum

Use to be huge, especially for staking, but unless I'm looking in the wrong place, it does not seem to have had any posts for over a year.



http://www.eatmystack.co.uk/forum/forum.php

Jon Spinks, Jono Crute a legend called jagz7 and myself probably wouldn't have made it in poker if it wasn't for that little forum, good little community which to be fair was dying off about 4/5 years ago.

Blast from the past!

I used to enjoy reading his blog, back in the days of Amatay, WouldBe, Yorkshire Pudding etc.

Probably the most talented degen I've ever met. Used to battle Mineri and Busquets for fun in the 1/2K HU SNG's back in the day.  Regularly put on a clinic of how to play a CL 2 tables out in MTT's...

[Eat My Stack Forum]

Eat My Stack Forum

Use to be huge, especially for staking, but unless I'm looking in the wrong place, it does not seem to have had any posts for over a year.



http://www.eatmystack.co.uk/forum/forum.php

Jon Spinks, Jono Crute a legend called jagz7 and myself probably wouldn't have made it in poker if it wasn't for that little forum, good little community which to be fair was dying off about 4/5 years ago.

It took Gryko 1 hand to beat me in a heat at the world heads up champs at the Vic about 5 yrs ago. Boss!

Haha I remember you telling me this. AQ vs AK iirc cos you'd been warned he was agg

can't fold AQ preflop HU mate 

It took Gryko 1 hand to beat me in a heat at the world heads up champs at the Vic about 5 yrs ago. Boss!

Mushrooms, eggs and mushy peas for me. I'm fine with regualar garden peas though

Depends on the numbers and worth keeping an eye on because at first sight with Dneg at 12/1 and some excellent unknown online players at 33/1 stars don't know their arse from their elbow in pricing this.

fwiw i think Antonius isn't talking about HUD's. Hes more likely talking about PLO "dream machines" built by the likes of hollywood Haxton and a few other at the nosebleeds have access to which can help you make decisions IN GAME.

Huds should defo be banned now since the lines have become so blurred. I would just like a something to track how many hands I've played and how much I've lost.

Disclaimer: Much of this post is based on rumour and hearsay from third parties and may not be 100% factually correct.

Tim Chung in a re-entry blind on blind. I am gonna go for J8o

Tim Chung in a re-entry blind on blind. I am gonna go for J8o

miles away

10-8off

Eames A-9o

Eames doubled, both missed the lot

so cold....

Cut my teeth in my eary years around 06-07 on Ladbrokes and it was a simple and clean piece of software

Roland De Wolfe there too

Last seen on TV here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JseHcs0EHkU

seen that clip lots, and never caught on it was De Wolfe!

gl fella!

these bots pay the same rake to the room that you or i pay? the room does not distinguish?

so up and until now its fair to say the incentive for the room to do much about this has been mixed at best?

If they were break even or slight winners/losers pre rakeback, this would be perfect for the site. As it turns out they are the absolute crushers of these stakes, the fact they have raked 2.5mill and lets assume they have cashed out all 1.4mill its still a net win for stars.

I only play NLHE but got a refund for $60 last week and I have no idea who or how long the banned account had been around. I'd be surprised if a more proportional refund wasn't closer to $600. You would hope been regulated, there more clarity on jurisdiction and protection of the players, but i guess time will tell.

The figure taken from legit players is likely to be in the region of $4million, when you consider they have contributed approx $2.5mill in rake. I wonder if stars plans on redistributing that?

It seems these bots were highly sophisticated in some sort of hole card sharing, which is a bigger deal in PLO than NLHE for card removal. Which goes a long way to explaining why regs thought they were awful but they crushed harder than anyone.

Naturally this lead the bots to run massively above AIEV, as they took -EV lines with perhaps knowing which cards were dead etc etc.

I'd imagine more information to come to light over the coming days.

Don't think there are any cliffs as yet. suspected up to 25 accounts so far found mainly 200PLO estimated profits $1.4mill according to whoTfru.

Some of the accounts still active as of 9/6/15 and no word from a stars rep so far

links from 2p2:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/153/high-stakes-pl-omaha/massive-bot-ring-pokerstars-how-spot-them-1537778/

Dumbed down NVG link:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip-brought-you-online-poker-report/news-massive-plo-bot-ring-pokerstars-millions-hands-huge-winners-1538509/

I'm guessing its done purely for economics, as WSOP numbers are down fairly sharply across the board so far. Safe bet future series/festivals will be following flatter payout structures given the state of the poker economy. The major gripe I would have as a player would be the structure not been announced beforehand as it is extreme to almost all other comps.