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 on: Today at 10:07:49 AM 
Started by The Camel - Last post by tikay
I can't C & P this, as it is from The Times which is behind a paywall.

On the flight in question, there had, by chance, been an earlier incident when a fire began in a different toilet which activated the smoke detectors. 2 of the aircraft's 4 hand-held fire extinguishers were used to quell the first fire, so they were down to 2 hand-held extinguishers now.

The pilot, a little concerned at the situation, came on the PA & warned passengers about the "moronic" (his actual word) practice of smoking on board a passenger aircraft, especially in the toilet, & especially now they were down to 2 extinguishers.  

So the guy, who was pissed as a fart, was clearly warned not to do it, but persisted.

In that context, whilst 10 years might seem harsh, I don't have an iota of sympathy with him.

As chance would have it, a fire prevention officer was on board as a PAX, & he helped deal with the problem.

Once again, excess alcohol (or inability to hold alcohol) is at the root of the problem.  

Interesting. That does shed a different light on the matter somewhat.

However, why airlines allow people on board who are clearly pissed is beyond me.

I could not agree more.

Aircraft cabins are almost unique places - we sit there, effectively trapped in our seats for long periods, often 10 hours or more. Being trapped in my seat next to a piss artist is a thoroughly dreadful experience.

I'd ban all alcohol consumption at airports & on aircraft, but here, of course, the Airports & Airlines share some blame, as they seek to maximise revenues by selling the stuff.

 2 
 on: Today at 10:07:01 AM 
Started by atdc21 - Last post by RickBFA
I had it done. Mixed feelings. Improved my long vision but I now need reading glasses which I didn't before.

 3 
 on: Today at 10:03:46 AM 
Started by TightEnd - Last post by TightEnd
well I have a $22 ticket in my account, I assume it came from this so thanks a lot.

it was yes, everyone who asked got a $22 ticket, no catches

 4 
 on: Today at 10:03:38 AM 
Started by atdc21 - Last post by WellChief
I had it done in 2006, think it cost around £2500 at a local optical express. There was around half a day of discomfort which I slept off but that night my vision was perfect and I could watch a game of football on the tele without glasses/contacts for the first time. My eyes were a little dry for a week but you get eye drops for that. Eyesight is still great , and no problems with reading yet although I'm sure I will in the future as all people do as they age (I was only 22 when I had the op). Would say it's probably the best value thing I've ever bought!

4 or 5 of my friends have also had laser eye , all had similar experiences to me and are very happy with it.


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 on: Today at 10:03:20 AM 
Started by TightEnd - Last post by TightEnd

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 on: Today at 09:58:59 AM 
Started by TightEnd - Last post by TightEnd
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 7 
 on: Today at 09:54:49 AM 
Started by TightEnd - Last post by ripple11


"William Hill have Jeremy Corbyn at 4/1 to be the next Prime Minister"




Can you ever have imagined saying that without a few noughts after the 4..........incredible.

 8 
 on: Today at 09:53:12 AM 
Started by TightEnd - Last post by nirvana
And that polll was taken post Manchester bombing, which was supposedly going to harden Tory support.

We are living in very strange times.

Correction. The poll was taken pre Manchester.

don't think thats correct,its taken tuesday/wednesday

You're right.

I got the info from a Times journalist Twitter account, but he was talking about a different poll. @samcoatestimes

yes the kantar one above was pre manchester but post manifesto


this is a remarkable thread, its been through a big polling error in 2015, a scottish independence vote,brexit, a snap election where the government began 24% and is now 5% ahead. a manifesto cock up that changed the election, a terrorist act that suspended campaigning and and who know what will happen in the next two weeks

We live in very strange times. Trying to predict what will happen next is a fruitless task.

Maybe Jeremy Corbyn has something of Donald Trump about him. Albeit from a totally opposite political viewpoint obviously.

He is not like traditional politicians, he talks in language people understand and he has a cult like following.

Only Farage has similar influence on people in the UK.

(Or maybe I'm just trying to find a narrative which fits the results we are seeing)

Yeah.  You shouldn't underestimate him.  He has a machine behind him that has steamrollered two elections.  Maybe he gets the new technology and how to harness it better than most.

Having said that he is frequently one step away from a big cock up.  To do a war causes terrorism speach right now just seems really badly timed at best.  I hope someone stops him speaking about it for a few days. 

I think yr right that the conventional wisdom would be that a war causes terrorism thing would make one appear too much of an apologist to be a leader. Probably still true but I don't think it will play so negatively these days. Large parts of the electorate don't really remember more local troubles and will only have known the interventions in the middle east which seem increasingly badly motivated and executed by the day

 9 
 on: Today at 09:49:08 AM 
Started by The Camel - Last post by The Camel
I can't C & P this, as it is from The Times which is behind a paywall.

On the flight in question, there had, by chance, been an earlier incident when a fire began in a different toilet which activated the smoke detectors. 2 of the aircraft's 4 hand-held fire extinguishers were used to quell the first fire, so they were down to 2 hand-held extinguishers now.

The pilot, a little concerned at the situation, came on the PA & warned passengers about the "moronic" (his actual word) practice of smoking on board a passenger aircraft, especially in the toilet, & especially now they were down to 2 extinguishers.  

So the guy, who was pissed as a fart, was clearly warned not to do it, but persisted.

In that context, whilst 10 years might seem harsh, I don't have an iota of sympathy with him.

As chance would have it, a fire prevention officer was on board as a PAX, & he helped deal with the problem.

Once again, excess alcohol (or inability to hold alcohol) is at the root of the problem.  

Interesting. That does shed a different light on the matter somewhat.

However, why airlines allow people on board who are clearly pissed is beyond me.

 10 
 on: Today at 09:48:10 AM 
Started by TightEnd - Last post by The Camel
And that polll was taken post Manchester bombing, which was supposedly going to harden Tory support.

We are living in very strange times.

Correction. The poll was taken pre Manchester.

don't think thats correct,its taken tuesday/wednesday

You're right.

I got the info from a Times journalist Twitter account, but he was talking about a different poll. @samcoatestimes

yes the kantar one above was pre manchester but post manifesto


this is a remarkable thread, its been through a big polling error in 2015, a scottish independence vote,brexit, a snap election where the government began 24% and is now 5% ahead. a manifesto cock up that changed the election, a terrorist act that suspended campaigning and and who know what will happen in the next two weeks

We live in very strange times. Trying to predict what will happen next is a fruitless task.

Maybe Jeremy Corbyn has something of Donald Trump about him. Albeit from a totally opposite political viewpoint obviously.

He is not like traditional politicians, he talks in language people understand and he has a cult like following.

Only Farage has similar influence on people in the UK.

(Or maybe I'm just trying to find a narrative which fits the results we are seeing)

Yeah.  You shouldn't underestimate him.  He has a machine behind him that has steamrollered two elections.  Maybe he gets the new technology and how to harness it better than most.

Having said that he is frequently one step away from a big cock up.  To do a war causes terrorism speach right now just seems really badly timed at best.  I hope someone stops him speaking about it for a few days. 

I don't know you're right.

Never in a hundred years did I think Corbyn would get Labour this close in the polls.

I think we should just ride this bandwagon until the end of the campaign now. They've done incredibly well to get this close, maybe this is the move he's got to make to push Labour over the hump.

People are sick of being terrorist targets, our current foreign policy has failed miserably. Let Corbyn have a chance to show the country there's an alternative to being the USAs lapdog.

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