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 on: Today at 05:46:33 PM 
Started by Kmac84 - Last post by Tal
   Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold

            The Second Coming - Yeats

Essentially the most macro reason for my departing the industry centred around the unsustainability (IMO) of the current model of the UK betting industry.

Over the previous 10-15yrs there has been, quite simply, a quantum shift in the industry's make up, in terms of the punters rather than the firms. Most of this subconscious.

Where historically one perhaps had a telephone bookmaker who you 'trusted' to quote you the nag's price, nowadays even the most uninformed are nigh on compelled to compare on price. Bookmaker after bookmaker attempts to step in front each of the other, throwing offers of which they do not understand the true cost, and tighter and tighter margins of which they do not truly understand the implications from a volatility perspective.

Margins fall, volatility increases. People hedge with neither rhyme nor reason, simply because one 'can' and because they (falsely, long term) believe the stress in their lives will reduce.

Essentially, the punter has never had it so good. Or so the industry would have you believe...

...but for one inconvenient truth - it is all too good to be true. Sharps can't bet, informed punters can't bet, even Billy Bunters can't bet. The industry has slit it's throat as each player has endeavoured to beat the others to the front of the queue.

Yeats went to Godolphin School, as it then was called.

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 on: Today at 05:35:58 PM 
Started by pleno1 - Last post by pleno1
was a stupid hand, i had ak not aa though.

i dont have the hand right now, but basically.. 30 left in the sunday 530.

i was 4th in chips vea was 3rd, he folded to every one of my opens so far, he was on my direct left.

i opened hijac with aks, he 3bet, i 4bet with the intention of snapping a jam but he 5bet. i felt like he was super polarised here and would just rip in a lot of hands that i would be flipping with and spidey senses were telling me he had Ax kx or AA/KK. So I called

flop was k22xxc, i c/called

turn was , i c and he c behind

river was a three clubs, i had 170ish k, i bet 81k he went all in for 90 more and pot was like 500ish? and tanked for ages and folded.

he just was never bluffing here and id rather be in with 80k than put something down to a cooler that wasnt.


 3 
 on: Today at 05:35:39 PM 
Started by GreekStein - Last post by Eso Kral
Hey Cossington

Will you ever be telling me what Fancy dress outfit I need to wear for our Movember 2012 prop bet?

Apart from the family what do you miss most about the UK?

 4 
 on: Today at 05:33:16 PM 
Started by Kmac84 - Last post by arbboy
Do you think it may be that their secondary security checks unearth a link to the customer and then they close the accounts? This has happened to me before where I have tried being cute with stuff and I thought I am clear and then they get me after a couple of bets.

If they were closing any old account after bets as described they would be shutting everyone pretty much.

I just find it incredible that even if they know its Stu that they even notice £50 bets coming in on major races on a busy saturday morning never mind close the account.  If they can't lay bets to take out £500/£1000 on the day's big handicaps at their early prices they really shouldn't have a licence and/or the lol traders really shouldn't be getting paid their £30k a year compiling salaries if their judgement with a 135% book edge in their favour is so poor.

 5 
 on: Today at 05:33:10 PM 
Started by TightEnd - Last post by GlennDuskTillDawn
Hi,

It was 188.

Nicola is going through the payouts now and needed to update the site fully.

Glenn

 6 
 on: Today at 05:32:45 PM 
Started by Kmac84 - Last post by edgascoigne
    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold

            The Second Coming - Yeats

Essentially the most macro reason for my departing the industry centred around the unsustainability (IMO) of the current model of the UK betting industry.

Over the previous 10-15yrs there has been, quite simply, a quantum shift in the industry's make up, in terms of the punters rather than the firms. Most of this subconscious.

Where historically one perhaps had a telephone bookmaker who you 'trusted' to quote you the nag's price, nowadays even the most uninformed are nigh on compelled to compare on price. Bookmaker after bookmaker attempts to step in front each of the other, throwing offers of which they do not understand the true cost, and tighter and tighter margins of which they do not truly understand the implications from a volatility perspective.

Margins fall, volatility increases. People hedge with neither rhyme nor reason, simply because one 'can' and because they (falsely, long term) believe the stress in their lives will reduce.

Essentially, the punter has never had it so good. Or so the industry would have you believe...

...but for one inconvenient truth - it is all too good to be true. Sharps can't bet, informed punters can't bet, even Billy Bunters can't bet. The industry has slit it's throat as each player has endeavoured to beat the others to the front of the queue.

 7 
 on: Today at 05:32:09 PM 
Started by pleno1 - Last post by Amatay
Saw you deep in the $500 i think it was yesterday. You folded aa on a k22xx and Veeea claimed aa too. Post it up and give us your thought BITB

 8 
 on: Today at 05:30:55 PM 
Started by TightEnd - Last post by bookiebasher
188 or 189 was the number

 9 
 on: Today at 05:29:29 PM 
Started by Kmac84 - Last post by BigAdz
Do you think it may be that their secondary security checks unearth a link to the customer and then they close the accounts? This has happened to me before where I have tried being cute with stuff and I thought I am clear and then they get me after a couple of bets.

If they were closing any old account after bets as described they would be shutting everyone pretty much.

 10 
 on: Today at 05:28:16 PM 
Started by GreekStein - Last post by Amatay
Constantine papapapapapapapapaaaay....

Who are you living with now and where?
Are you still with Lot?
Who are your three best buddies in Phuket?



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