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 31 
 on: Today at 02:55:00 PM 
Started by Somerled - Last post by Kmac84
Think you are taking the word nationalism and giving it an interpretation that we don't.

Part of the SNP/Yes message is that they want to encourage immigration into Scotland as we have a shrinking population. We require it to grow and we also realise that the immigrants are actually net contributors to the system. The rise of UKIP and apparent demonizing of immigrants and those on welfare south of the border is certainly a strong reason why many wish to move away from the politics of Westminster which seems to pander to the Daily Mails view of the UK.

Very much this. 

And one of the reasons that BT are failing to win voters is because they are making it about Nationalism.  Its the complete oppossite for many of us.  We are internationlists. 

Obvs, we have our fair share of dunderheids who think all foreigners are bad, but mostly these opinions are from people who are disenfranchised with politics and who are in large part disefranchised from any opportunity and because they come from families that have seen 3/4 generations of people live on benefits because they know no better.   The vast majority of people in Scotland understand migration and the benefits of it.  By creating new opportunities in an independent Scotland we have a chance to change the mindsets of those previously lost to politics. 

The YES campaign has many factions, with one common goal.  I am pretty sure we want to see different things for an Independent Scotland, but we need to win the arguement first and we can then create a new vision. 

 32 
 on: Today at 02:53:38 PM 
Started by kinboshi - Last post by demetri1978
painful to watch Frank/Kellie on BB ,for many reasons (i have to watch that rubbish just so i can see him and Audley)

 33 
 on: Today at 02:42:42 PM 
Started by Somerled - Last post by Eck
Think you are taking the word nationalism and giving it an interpretation that we don't.

Part of the SNP/Yes message is that they want to encourage immigration into Scotland as we have a shrinking population. We require it to grow and we also realise that the immigrants are actually net contributors to the system. The rise of UKIP and apparent demonizing of immigrants and those on welfare south of the border is certainly a strong reason why many wish to move away from the politics of Westminster which seems to pander to the Daily Mails view of the UK.

 34 
 on: Today at 02:34:00 PM 
Started by The Baron - Last post by Nakor

My bosses little boy has been at some Chelsea training camp with Alonso's little boy - Xabi has been there most days and has been quite happy to discuss his pending move to Chelsea, until he announced on the last day he was off to Germany.  Funny how things can change so quickly.

 35 
 on: Today at 02:32:49 PM 
Started by Somerled - Last post by TightEnd
both are different strands of nationalism. i would suggest the similariities between the two are far greater than you would think. Just have a different target in mind

 36 
 on: Today at 02:30:36 PM 
Started by Somerled - Last post by Ironside
Scottish voters are much happier with Europe than those south of the border snp already say we will be part of Europe if there is a yes vote

 37 
 on: Today at 02:29:21 PM 
Started by KingPush - Last post by redarmi
Bear in mind that in the above three posts from Dubai, Arb and Sonour (and earlier too) you are getting advice from people that gamble for a living.  They are very good at it and they know the personal and financial costs of the decision to make it a career so their opinion is worth listening to when they tell you that concentrating on your degree is the best thing for your long term future. I am too and would give you the same advice.  We are all 30+ now and have done this for long enough to now not have a choice and, frankly, if I had my time again I am not sure that gambling for a living was the right decision.  I could certainly have made more money devoting the time I have spent to something else and the opportunity cost of devoting huge amounts of time to gambling at this stage of your life is something you shouldn't underestimate.   You say that if you keep growing with the game you can survive but at 21 is that really your ambition for life?  To survive?  Of course there are some people that make very good livings but they are a very small minority and most professional gamblers I know probably make less than 50k a year which, when you consider the skillsets, education and time devoted is an insanely poor return for people that are close to the top of their profession and even the very best, the Tony Blooms, Chris Moormans, Phil Iveys of this world might have made more if they devoted their time to financial markets or something like that instead of gambling.

 38 
 on: Today at 02:28:03 PM 
Started by The Baron - Last post by DungBeetle
The seedings are based on those teams performances in Europe over the last 5 years.
It seems a perfectly reasonable system.

I don't think it's reasonable at all.  It just helps protect a tv cartel of the big 12 or so clubs going as deep as possible by the seeding being directly linked to previous season's performance which makes breaking it tougher and tougher as each season goes on.  By the every title of the competition the top 8 seeds in pot A should be the top 8 ranked countries champions from the previous season imo.

It's more reasonable than your suggestion Smiley

Your system protects the strongest leagues, the current system protects the strongest clubs. Not much difference and just swings and roundabouts.
Arsenal are in the 1st pot coz they are one of the top 8 teams in the competition (and they would be, even without CL money).
Replacing them with Anderlecht would be silly.
If you wish to redistribute the money the CL generates, there are better ways than promoting your 'affirmative action' policies, which would simply weaken the competition.
I dunno, give the Champions of every league in Europe £10m. Distribute the TV money equally between all the teams that participate.
Even if you did that, or even further, if you gave Anderlecht Arsenals share of the CL money over the next 10 years and gave Arsenal Anderlechts share of money, in 10 years time Arsenal will still be the richer and stronger club due to other income streams.

In your system, teams like Celtic/Apoel/Basel/Olympiakos that have previously done well at European level can't EVER break into the top seeds due to their countries co-efficient.

Also if you have a problem with the title of the Champions League, would you prefer if we named it the 'The Very Good Teams League'?

It strikes me as absurd that Arsenal, having finished 4th (again) and having only just qualified for the Group Stage can effectively be seeded higher than Liverpool and City after finishing below them in the league last year. My personal view is the current system is a nonsense.

However, the point that has prompted me to post, is your assertion Arsenal would be in the top 8 clubs in Europe without Champions League money. You might not be aware that even using the flawed UEFA ranking system they are  currently ranked 10th (and 9th for 2013/2014) They have only made Pot 1 because of the failure of 2 clubs above them to qualify and are hanging by a thread should they again qualify for next year's Champions League.




 



I think you are over

agreed they were only just the 4th best team in England last year.  Big statement to say they are a top 8 side in Europe even without CL money when PSG, Real, Barca Bayern are locks to be above Arsenal as well.  If you add all the marginal teams around them in any rankings then Arsenal would never be considered an auto spot for a top 8 team in Europe imo obviously.

Playing in the CL seventeen years on the spin obviously counts for something.

Tough titteh for Johnny-come-latelys I'd say.

I don't think it should.  That just encourages the "come 4th at all costs and who cares if we don't win a trophy" attitude.  Teams that finish above Arsenal in the previous year's domestic league should have a higher ranking for the current round of Euro draw imo.

 39 
 on: Today at 02:25:06 PM 
Started by KingPush - Last post by pleno1
Dubai is obviously right.

I just wouldnt suggest many people to listen to him because most poker players are deluded about their abilities. If they listened to him (what he says is correct if you are good) then they would just lose a lot of money quickly. Generally people are just degens and if they can play small stakes, lose a little or win a little its probably good for them.

You wont learn much moving up the stakes like Dubai said, they are generally just filled with players from paragraph 2 ^^ that try to not make many mistakes and thus just play weak tight and with the high rake its just a snoozfest, you're not learning anything and you won't really be improving and it wont help you for higher stakes games that are filled differently.

If you want to learn theory stuff just buy Matt Janda's book. Playing live really makes little sense, I've done the math in other peoples threads previously, but try and work out your actually hourly playing live, then minus costs, then minus all the other stuff that comes with it and then realise the variance of it vs playing online where your hourly will be way higher.

Finally Dubai right again about you should probably lend 5k and play higher but obviously thats a hard thing to do, instead just forget about poker for 3-4 months, get some job where you amke 1-2k a month and then you will have a little roll for yourself.  Poker will be here in a few months, dw.

 40 
 on: Today at 02:23:36 PM 
Started by The Camel - Last post by DungBeetle
Haha - didn't notice the Alcopop - genius.

Any further thoughts on West Ham?  Tempted to upgrade it to a full thread suggestion for a £20 wager.

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