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Perhaps Mullins should have negotiated very low fees but extra payments for making race entries online or extra nosebags for his horses

Gigginstown remove 60 horses from Mullins due to fees disagreement http://bit.ly/2dr4Odz

When O'Leary & Mullins sit down to negotiate, that's some tough gig, neither likes to be pushed around.

Entirely possible it is brinkmanship by The Great Man, who did exactly the same with with Boeing when he was negotiating to purchase options on a fleet of 737-800's & ended up getting his way.

Notable that both parties were gracious to each other in their statements. "Gracious" does not come easy to either, except when it suits their own ends.     

What do people think of these 'Sting' operations?

Is it fair to tempt or coerce someone who might otherwise never do anything wrong?

What happens if the Stingee behaves impeccably?

I've always thought it was slack methodology and the results they produce are proper flaky. Remember when Lawrence Dallaglio was sensationally caught admitting to quaffing coke on a regular basis? Turned out he was just trying to impress people, play the big man. Perfectly normal human frailty. What about those wives who set a honey trap to find out if their husband cheat? Well if a fella has a few drinks in a bar and is approached by a super sexy woman who lavishes attention on him it's normal human frailty to play along with the flattery. But what about if he falls into the hotel room with this woman and before anything happens he says you know what, I love my wife, I can't go through with this. The guy doesn't get that chance, he's bang to rights guilty before it gets to that stage.

Moving onto big Sam, the facts are he didn't receive any monies and he insisted anything agreed would need FA approval. So what is he guilty of? Calling Gary Neville a plonker, errr agreed. And calling Roy Woy, errr so does everyone. He is guilty of having a few beers and playing the big man, normal human frailty. I do agree he has been very dumb because how many times are people going to meet fake sheiks with grand ideas before they start smelling a rat? But ultimately the media lay the sting and then report the results any way they choose which doesn't seem like cricket to me.

The FA man said he said things that were inappropriate for a man in his position, which is clearly true.

Whole thing feels a bit wrong though.  It is 4 hours condensed into not very long.  And in the video, you can hear Allardyce saying you can't do that.  If he then goes on to say you can employ an agent and get fees that way.  That isn't breaking the rules and is getting round the rules.  He also said that this would have to be agreed with his employers.  So even in the edited highlights, he is advising them not to do the thing that breaks the rules.  Not very sure he is greedy either, some random offers me 40% of my earnings to go to Asia 4 times a year and do a speech, pretty sure I'd go along and meet them.   

Meh.

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Just listened to Jeremy Corbyn's interview on migration. He doesn't seem too worried about numbers or restricting migration and thinks his migration fund will help alleviate issues and concerns.

Not sure that position is going to play very well with core Labour voters in large cities outside London.

its an odd position to take. He comes from the metropolitian left, which isn't that concerned about migration. after all in islington etc its a part of every day life living in a cosmopolitan multinational city

however in a labour heartland, where it is said there is a distrust of metropolitan luvvies*, and people are affected by globalisation and migration, then surely this position plays far worse (and into ukip's hands?)

* the apochrypal story was Mandelson being selected to fight Hartlepool, canvassing in a chippie, being presented with a plate of mushy peas/chips and saying "ooh thats nice, guacamole on my chips"

Surely you can't accidently order mushy peas in a chippy? 

he didn't

the story goes that the propreitor said "would you like to try some of our food?"

prospective candidate has to say yes

and so it went....

Ah ok.  Surely chip shop man knows mushy peas are like marmite.  I like them, but would be pretty irritated if somebody put curry, beans or gravy on a plate with a piece of fish. 

"I'd like guacomole with my fish" said nobody ever.  Why would he even think it was guacamole? 

From the snopes message board

http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=101;t=000327

leads you here

http://deadmenleft.blogspot.co.uk/2004/08/avocado-related-conspiracy-theories.html

Might be nonsense too, but it has a source

Just as you thought it was cleared up here

Working from a disused office in what had been the industrial quarter of Kirby before recession had reduced it to a brick-strewn wasteland, thier only source of food was a chippie nearby in a small row of shops where the shutters stayed up all day as a precaution against vandals... it was so very different from the home life of Shelley Keeling, daughter of a wealthy East Coast American businessman, who was completing her studies by spending a year working in the parliamentary office of Jack Straw, who was in Knowsley North as the candidate's political advisor. One day, a party researcher named Julian Eccles.. invited her to the chippie to taste the local fare. Sunk into the counter was a large metal dish containing something green and viscous. 'That looks delicious; is it avocado?' she enquired. It was mushy peas.

it goes on to say

The mushy peas make one more mysterious appearance, however. Peter Mandelson was for a time employed by the Labour Party as director of communications. He was responsible, amongst other things, for introducing the red rose symbol for the Party as a replacement for the red flag. On his departure from that post in 1990, Neil Kinnock, then Labour leader, gave a short, well-wishing speech to thank Mandelson, in which he recounted the story of the mushy peas and claimed Mandelson was the mistaken apparatchik involved. Kinnock appeared to be basing his story - not at this point generally connected to Mandelson - on an account printed in The People's political column a month before. The columnist had retold the tale, placing the peas in Hartlepool with Mandelson - whilst denying that this had ever occurred, of course, but keeping the rumour alive nontheless. The columnist's name? Peter Mandelson.

Quite fancy some fish and chips and mushy peas right now.  Hold the guacomole

Just listened to Jeremy Corbyn's interview on migration. He doesn't seem too worried about numbers or restricting migration and thinks his migration fund will help alleviate issues and concerns.

Not sure that position is going to play very well with core Labour voters in large cities outside London.

its an odd position to take. He comes from the metropolitian left, which isn't that concerned about migration. after all in islington etc its a part of every day life living in a cosmopolitan multinational city

however in a labour heartland, where it is said there is a distrust of metropolitan luvvies*, and people are affected by globalisation and migration, then surely this position plays far worse (and into ukip's hands?)

* the apochrypal story was Mandelson being selected to fight Hartlepool, canvassing in a chippie, being presented with a plate of mushy peas/chips and saying "ooh thats nice, guacamole on my chips"

Surely you can't accidently order mushy peas in a chippy? 

he didn't

the story goes that the propreitor said "would you like to try some of our food?"

prospective candidate has to say yes

and so it went....

Ah ok.  Surely chip shop man knows mushy peas are like marmite.  I like them, but would be pretty irritated if somebody put curry, beans or gravy on a plate with a piece of fish. 

"I'd like guacomole with my fish" said nobody ever.  Why would he even think it was guacamole? 

Wenger backed from 20s into 8's this morning for the permanent gig after Southgate's 4 match interregnum (we hope)

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Just listened to Jeremy Corbyn's interview on migration. He doesn't seem too worried about numbers or restricting migration and thinks his migration fund will help alleviate issues and concerns.

Not sure that position is going to play very well with core Labour voters in large cities outside London.

its an odd position to take. He comes from the metropolitian left, which isn't that concerned about migration. after all in islington etc its a part of every day life living in a cosmopolitan multinational city

however in a labour heartland, where it is said there is a distrust of metropolitan luvvies*, and people are affected by globalisation and migration, then surely this position plays far worse (and into ukip's hands?)

* the apochrypal story was Mandelson being selected to fight Hartlepool, canvassing in a chippie, being presented with a plate of mushy peas/chips and saying "ooh thats nice, guacamole on my chips"

Surely you can't accidently order mushy peas in a chippy? 

he didn't

the story goes that the propreitor said "would you like to try some of our food?"

prospective candidate has to say yes

and so it went....

any more for any more on the ryder cup?

a portfolio would be nice

http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/ryder-cup

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patrick reed was mentioned a few days ago

he i think top scored for his team at gleneagles with 4 points and made a great partnership with spieth

really got up for it, played out of his skin, all patriotic etc and that hasn't always been the case for the US players where team ethic has been an issue (tiger, mickelson etc)

is he any value this time in any market?

i forgot the mascot one

our mascot is filbert the fox. in various guises has been around since the 80s

all bollocks obviously, but a popular figure

not allowed to be at the ground yesterday (first time i think in 35 years) as "too large"

of no importance at all but why the need for a rule like this?

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