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TightPaulFolds
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« on: January 30, 2007, 09:42:05 PM »

PL OH4  cash game, I hold 

A bit of preflop betting Pot is $25 to the flop

Flop comes 

One other player, to my right, LAG with a vendetta, bets $25. I go to the chatbox and say 'I have the nuts' and reraise the pot.

He folds. I'm a bit fed up getting straights crushed when the board pairs, so just wanted to close the door right there. Is it legitimate to say this kind of thing in Omaha? Is it the best option?
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2007, 10:31:26 AM »

Legitimate yes..stupid? definetly. it's a very tilty thing to to say and advising everybody you have the nuts everytime you hold the nuts will only cost you money in the long (and even short) run.

When you flop the nut straight ona  rainbow board you want people to pay for it. hell you have the backdoor flush possibility covered for 2 out of the 3 suits that are out there and can always get rid of someone on a turn.
don't be soo scared that the board will pair up. Sure it will happen sometimes but more often then not it won't.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2007, 01:16:43 PM »

Thanks boldie, concise as ever. I had a feeling that might be the case. I just seem to have had a huge number of outrdraws of late, this was desperation I suppose. First time it happened I reraised a massive amount and the guy called to hit a full house, I asked him 'what did you think I had?' and he replied 'Not enough chips' Smiley Smiley
I'm still on a learning curve with omaha. It's also referred to as 'OH', presumably cos I keep saying that at showdown Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2007, 01:24:29 PM »

Thanks boldie, concise as ever. I had a feeling that might be the case. I just seem to have had a huge number of outrdraws of late, this was desperation I suppose. First time it happened I reraised a massive amount and the guy called to hit a full house, I asked him 'what did you think I had?' and he replied 'Not enough chips' Smiley Smiley
I'm still on a learning curve with omaha. It's also referred to as 'OH', presumably cos I keep saying that at showdown Smiley

My friend, I reckon the main problem you have here is not learning Omaha. you are a capable card player (if a bit too tight). The problem you have is managing your bad beats, you seem to stew on them for a long time. If you would be able to distance yourself slightly from your game I think you'll see that it's the way you handle your bad beats that is costing you the most money and not getting out drawn.

I probably shouldn't say it as sooner or later we will play each other in a tournament again and I know I can tilt you within a minute by bringing up some old bad beat and thereby having you lay down the best hand (not that that has ever happened of course or that I've even tried  Wink ) but it really is the weakest point in your game and as the only games we play are small ones I am not reliant on I might aswell let you know.

Just my two pence.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2007, 01:58:47 PM »

Yeah, I do steam pretty easy. Amazing what half an hour away from the game doing something else does to change things though. I'm losing the tight though, sadly. Just the other day I called a raise with QQ. Smiley
I remember with fondness one time I steamed in Stanleys. Friday night is so bingoish sometimes you're just glad to make it near the final table with a decent stack. I raise with AK on the button, BB reraises me. Hit K on ragged flop, bet half my stack. BB pushes all in with nutin, catches runner runner inside 100-1 shot. Some steam comes out of my ears. His friend goes 'nice hand buddy'. Steam is piping hot now, gushing at the dealer, as I stand to go. Dealer asks me to sit back down, pointing at my two remaining chips. . 'Nice hand?,' I query as I take my seat. 'Yeah, AK is a drawing hand,' he helpfully points to me.
 
Tilt is deadly. Thanks for the heads up though, I look forward to the next encounter Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2007, 02:06:03 PM »

Not as steamy as others though (you probably know who I mean). Player A with sizeable stack raises 1/4 of stack. Action folds round to player B who pushes all in. As action was going to player B, dealer mucks hands of player A. Player A calls, demanding that pocket tens be retrieved from muck. Dealer asks if no objections, proceeds to sift through muck for player A's hand. Player B gets ready for all-in showdown, showing  . Dealer still sifting muck, finds  , but while sifting also uncovers  . Small nuclear war breaks out between player B's ears, chair almost sent flying. 
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2007, 02:14:14 PM »

Not as steamy as others though (you probably know who I mean). Player A with sizeable stack raises 1/4 of stack. Action folds round to player B who pushes all in. As action was going to player B, dealer mucks hands of player A. Player A calls, demanding that pocket tens be retrieved from muck. Dealer asks if no objections, proceeds to sift through muck for player A's hand. Player B gets ready for all-in showdown, showing  . Dealer still sifting muck, finds  , but while sifting also uncovers  . Small nuclear war breaks out between player B's ears, chair almost sent flying. 

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2007, 04:22:59 PM »

You know any good books for Omaha hi?

Nice when this happens tho Smiley

     USukAtDis is at seat 0 with $73.50.
     KOFK is at seat 1 with $33.95.
     8dewdew is at seat 2 with $106.25.
     arramies is at seat 3 with $55.70.
     Ruffo is at seat 4 with $271.65.
     sonomasnap is at seat 5 with $118.35.
     The button is at seat 5.
     
     USukAtDis posts the small blind of $.50.
     KOFK posts the big blind of $1.

     USukAtDis:  three clubs
     KOFK:  -- -- -- --
     8dewdew:  -- -- -- --
     arramies:  -- -- -- --
     Ruffo:  -- -- -- --
     sonomasnap:  -- -- -- --

Pre-flop:
 
          8dewdew folds.   arramies folds.   Ruffo folds. 
          sonomasnap calls.   USukAtDis calls.   KOFK checks.   

Flop (board: Two Clubs two hearts):
 
          USukAtDis checks.   KOFK checks.   sonomasnap checks. 
         

Turn (board: Two Clubs two hearts ):
 
          USukAtDis bets $1.   KOFK folds.   sonomasnap raises to
          $6.   USukAtDis calls.   

River (board: Two Clubs two hearts Ah):
 
          USukAtDis checks.   sonomasnap bets $15.   USukAtDis
          raises to $60.   sonomasnap goes all-in for $111.35. 
          USukAtDis goes all-in for $66.50.   sonomasnap is
          returned $44.85 (uncalled).   

         

Showdown:
 
     sonomasnap shows .
     sonomasnap has Ah: full house, fours full of aces.
     USukAtDis shows three clubs .
     USukAtDis has two hearts Ah: straight flush, five high.
         

Hand #37040314-72149 Summary:
 
     $3 is raked from a pot of $148.
     USukAtDis wins $145 with straight flush, five high.
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